Guest Drewz Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 I am looking for photos of the IMSA type flares as I have the option of getting some but I can't find any pic's of them on a car. Anyone got a link for me??? Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speeder Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 My '77 has the IMSA flairs from MSA- check out my site (if the server's up today). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Drewz Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 THANKS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 Rick B. Have always been impressed by your car. What are the rear view mirrors? Did not realize you had the tilt frontend. I strongly suspect that tilt front end may have been designed by Rick Hammond that did the Origin convertible kit. He was behind the Vello Rossa tilt frontend developement and worked at Arizona Z and for John Washington at Vello Rossa. Your side vents were his. I have a set that I made molds from. No wonder the vents looked strangely familar. I never saw them on a car before. Look right at home on a Z like they were made for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speeder Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 TZ, Mirrors are cheap Vitaloni "Californians". Always liked the looks but just a bit small. Ever since I first saw a one-piece on a Z I wanted one. Very nice for wrenching on the front -which I do a lot of. Ive made it so that the whole thing removes with no tools, just flip the 4 hood pins, unplug the headlights pull 4 hairpins, and lift off. I used small gas struts to act as stops for the hinge action. Attracts a lot of attention at Z gatherings, probably the reason my dinged-up and dirty car won best of show in the first one it entered. The AZCar front end caught my attention because of the louvered panels. You're right, it looks like they belong. When I received the part, I almost sent it back on the spot because of very poor quality and fit. I had never worked fiberglass before, but went to work trying to make this thing fit and be sturdy enough. After 4 months of spare time lost, I had strengthened the basic piece, fabricated hinges, bonded in fiberglass flares and headlight buckets, and made the whole thing fit after a fashion (An astute observer will notice that the left and right wheel arches have different shapes). I was working in a friend's body shop and the professionals there were ridiculing my early efforts - but were more respectful when the car was finished. Since then I have sworn that I'll NEVER do another project like that again, but... maybe now that I've done it once.... Nahhhhhhh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Drewz Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 I presonally don't like the IMSA flare look but the moulding in of the front air dam and the dark color help blend them in REAL nicely. I love the car but I am going in a slightly diff. direction. I DARE YOU to do another!!! hehehe. If this was a first attempt than imagine what the skill and knowledge you have gained could produce just like BlueovalZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl327 Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 rick-your guages are complete overkill!!! every diagnostic believable, man your nuts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speeder Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 Drew,I had another '77 that got wrecked - that one had the other flares from MSA- the bubble looking ones that showed some tire. That car looked pretty good with the MSA airdam, side, and rear skirts. I just wanted to do something different with this one. Unbelieveable is the amount of variety in the cars on this forum - all kinds of tastes. Len, aren't we all nuts here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Drewz Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 Although I find the flares too much for my veiw of my car they go perfect with the overall look and color you picked out. My car will be a blood red candy. I am going to try for the anodized blood red color I love soo much. The look of your car flows so well. The whole thing is such a nice package and the surprise tilt front end is really the final touch. You guage setup is what I am going for, on the other hand. Did you remove the dash to install them or not?? Real nice job!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speeder Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 The three guages in the stock center locations are Autometer 2-5/8" mounted in the stock guages' housings. The tach and speedo are a snug press fit in 4" pvc pipe sections (ID machined out slightly) glued into the stock holes. I did hit the dash with a hole saw for the Voltmeter, that small 2" guage to the left of the center cluster. You don't have to take the dash apart - just remove the stock guages and you'll see what's needed to install the new ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Drewz Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 SWEET!! Thans dood!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleek Z Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 I am a bit perplexed by this thread and the style of flare here being referred to as "IMSA". Reviewing MSA's catalog I can see the flares labeled as "IMSA", but every early reference I have ever seen referring to IMSA flares and style kits on early Z cars look more like white car shown above. I photographed and brokered that car for sale many years ago and at the time the owner advertised it as a "IMSA" Z car. Pretty much that car is the same style as Hoover's red "IMSA" G-nose car featured at my website 2 years ago. I am wondering whether MSA may have taken some "liberties" in naming their flares "IMSA" after all the IMSA race cars disappeared from the racing spotlight as if possibly current day owners might not know the difference? I don't claim to be well informed about the history of the IMSA look, but Rick Bower's car , as great as it looks in the photos, does not strike me as having the "IMSA" look. Anybody know more? btw, Rick, great looking car. Hope I can put my lens on it someday. Bet I could show you your car like you've never seen it before in photos. NICE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speeder Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 You're right - those flares are only called "IMSA" by MSA and others who have sold that style. I'm planning to try and install the ones similar to those you've shown sometime in the distant future to get wider tires on. That will happen when the car is repainted. I have really beat up this car with careless wrenching and stupid shop incidents. Looks good from 10Ft, however. I really do need to take some glamour shots - My photography for the web site has been crude to say the least. If I ever get some basic engineering problems straightened out, maybe the car will have some more photo ops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Drewz Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 That is just a diff. sized flare that is called IMSA. I have seen a couple IMSA's such as that one above but it is more extreme than Rick's. More of a style than one specific flare I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl327 Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 i think the imsa flares are the only kind that will make a whale tale work, it brings it all in proportion, they are 15" wide on either side, its gonna cost bucks to get the shoes to fill those pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carlissimo Posted February 7, 2003 Share Posted February 7, 2003 Datsun Z cars were popular in 2 different classes in IMSA racing in the 70's, GTU and C-Production. The flares on the white car above look like GTU flares. The ones on Ricks car look like C-Production flares. We could probably dig up some pictures of Bob Sharp's cars that he and Paul Newman used to drive. Bottom line...both types are "IMSA" flares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Where can I get a set of flares like the white car shown? Those are what I'm looking for. Thanks, SC. http://zparts.com/graphics/gallery/tildon2a.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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