Boobala Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 Is anybody doing lead work, and if so, where are you getting the equipment and supplies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike kZ Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 You can get that stuff at Eastwood. http://www.eastwoodcompany.com Body Solder Kit Deluxe Item No. - 31126 Deluxe Kit- 4 flat paddles, 2 half round paddles, 2 file holders, 2 English body files ( 1 flat 1 half round ) 1 lb of tallow, 1 lb tinning butter, 5 acid brushes, 24 body solder sticks, and video.(#28023) Regular Price: $139.99 Sale Price: $125.99 (Savings: $14.00) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boobala Posted June 20, 2003 Author Share Posted June 20, 2003 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gtmattz Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 wow, lead.... i cant see why someone would want to use lead body filler.. even bondo is lighter than lead isnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boobala Posted June 21, 2003 Author Share Posted June 21, 2003 wow, lead.... i cant see why someone would want to use lead body filler.. even bondo is lighter than lead isnt it? The reason is that you get more stable fill. Bondo and the sheet metal of a car have different heat expansion rates. This is what leads many bondo jobs to crack after only a few years. The Lead/Tin mixture expansion rate is more in tune with the sheet metal. ( I won't say the same, just much closer). I think if you look at the top (- "Concourse Quality") restoration work, you will see very little Bondo and lot of lead. Then again, maybe Bonda has gotten better since I last use it 10 years ago. Is there in fact a more stable Bondo that I'm not aware of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim240z Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 Plastic body filler is by OEM manufacturers because of the toxicity of lead. How many factory original cars have you seen with failing filler work? Body filler, or Bondo (since that is the biggest brand name), got a bad reputation years ago because of people using it improperly to hide dents (ie not doing metal work first) to try to sell cars to the unweary. If filler is used correctly, it will, and does, last the life of the paint job. Lead is a nasty product to work with (healthwise). Just my 2C. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boobala Posted June 21, 2003 Author Share Posted June 21, 2003 Guess I've been listening to too many old-timers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spork Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 metal finishing is begining to be a lost art also. I've done quite a bit of it...but it takes a lot more time than a simple rough in and a coat of glaze which definetely does make it cost prohibitive. As far as using lead goes, I'd stay away from it, the health issues that go along with it are let alone enough to keep me away from it, not to mention the potential for paint problems down the line if you don't know what you're doing. Also, when talking about fillers, like it was mentioned above, when used properly, you'll never know they're there...even 20 years down the line. James Roraback bodyshop manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gtmattz Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 there are a few spots on my 280 that i am inevitably going to have to fill, is there a web page around that explains what to do and what not to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zachb55 Posted June 22, 2003 Share Posted June 22, 2003 wear a mask when bondoing though, that stuff aint a very healthy coating for the inside of your lungs either. i should know, ive only been sucking the stuff in for the last year. -Zach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snork Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Boobala, if you decide to use the metal to metal type of filler, be ready to do a rough out with a grinder. stuff sucks to sand, but it is water proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boobala Posted June 26, 2003 Author Share Posted June 26, 2003 I was just toying with the idea. I will probably pay a pro to do any major bodywork I need. I have very little experieince at it. I'm a nuts and bolts guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsumner Posted June 27, 2003 Share Posted June 27, 2003 Metal working is undergoing an increase in popularity.Go to metalshapers.org for a great site tons of info and quite a few old craftsmen who are willing to share their knowledge . The site also has links to venders of metal working tools,books and videos. There are also classes being offered around the country by some of the best in the buisiness. Later, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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