Phantom Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Been a while on the 280Z28. Posts in other areas cover some of this but will summarize here. Car has been steadily getting heavier. The rear strut tower brace has been added and I've also installed an Autopower SCCA 4-pt. roll bar. Both went in pretty easily and have nice fits. Car ran a 12.9@110 at the strip about 10 days ago on street tires and still with the restrictive 2.5" exhaust. No more track time until traction and exhaust problems fixed. I do have the launch technique down now. Still sorting out several other problems. Climate control system currently is just a blast furnace. Heat off the heater even with AC selected and heat pouring up through the shifter hole in the tunnel. The tunnel problem is an easy fix but the climate control is another story. Have a vibration in the front at speed now. Thought at first it was a loose T/C rod and I did find one loose but problem came back. I'll delve more deeply into that. Also have a new noise in the rear that occurs when I go over certain bumps. Sounds similar to having loose upper strut bolts but I've already confirmed that those are tight. I'll get the car up on a lift and really go through it. I just hope it's something a little loose and nothing broken. Car goes into paint jail on 11/15 to have some shoddy work redone. To their credit ,the body shop guys were really embarrassed to see what had happened with the front spoiler paint. LS1, T56 and R200 are working well together. No unusual noises there and the car just plain hauls. After my second round at Ennis I am now pretty convinced that the 3.70:1 ratio is probably the right one. 4th gear is good to 120 mph which means I should be able to run down into the 11's without having to do another shift. With some stickier tires the car should launch like a beast. I've got the 60' time down to 2.0 now and better tires will just bring it down from there. I won't get into ScottieGNZ times but it will be respectable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CableSrv Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 OHHHH your in arlington!!! your going to be my new best friend. i was just in an accident and well my car got totaled and well once the settlement check i plan to get a datsun 280z and i'm looking into doing a ls6 from a zo6 corvette if i can ever find one. doing this was my dream for like 3 years now and well now i can finally start to realize it. the only stump is FINDING a 280z to start on.... i'm in north richland hills and if i could i'd like to take a look at your z sometime and have a talk. would like to know exactly what you went threw to get a ls1 in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage42 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 i was just in an accident and well my car got totaled and well once the settlement check i plan to get a datsun 280z and i'm looking into doing a ls6 from a zo6 corvette if i can ever find one. Then you are expecting a very large settlement? I'd say a good $20k should at least get you started. Welcome to the beginning of a long road, my friend. "Been there......am there!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80LS1T Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 i was just in an accident and well my car got totaled and well once the settlement check i plan to get a datsun 280z and i'm looking into doing a ls6 from a zo6 corvette if i can ever find one. Dont bother with the LS6, spend the money you save from buying an LS1 and buy supercharger for the LS1. You will have more power and have the same if not less money into the engine. The LS6 would be more of a "$bling bling$" type of engine....just to say "yeah its an LS6" is not really worth it since its basically the same as the LS1. Its just like the LT4... same thing as the LT1's but only produce a little bit more power and are way over priced. Phantom when are you going to get a supercharger for yours! Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CableSrv Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 actually from many ppl there is a significant reason for a ls6 1) they changed the firing order to help quite it down somewhat 2) better higher flowing heads with new exhaust port design 3) better flowing intake manifold. 4) better cam now i assume i could get a ls1 and swap the crank, heads, and intake manifold for that but then that's alot of wasted money just for that when i can find a junker ls6 and since this is a project why not start off with a already solid ls6 i do plan to go t56 and want the cv halfshafts of the r230 rearend. i'm waiting for my next paycheck so i can order the jtr book for reading. one of the biggest things i'm worried about is suspension. I plan to put WIDE tires on this puppy anywhere from 10.5 fronts and 11.5 rears, but i kinda don't know what to do for brakes.... and how to convert to 5 lug for better rims and how to keep it all together to fit cv halfshafts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Posted December 23, 2003 Author Share Posted December 23, 2003 Cablesrv - The Cowtown Z Club meets the second Thursday of each month at 7:00 at the West Side Cafe, NW of the traffic circle off Camp Bowie Blvd. I plan on being there next month, Jan 8th. Email me directly if you want to see/talk about the car before then. BTW - Savage42 is right about the cost. Just the conversion components on my car -not counting engine, transmission, differential & braces cost over $2,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage42 Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 As far as I know, there is only one company that even makes the LS1/6 kit, and as Phanton mentioned, is about $2k. Since the LS motor mounts completely different than the other SBC motors, the JTR book would seem a waste of time. I haven't read the book, but doesn't that follow reason? Just my 2 cents. Oh, the LS6 intake manifold was used on all '01-02 LS1s. As far as LS6s go, the ones I've seen used have gone for $7k w/o a transmission. So, $10k for the motor, trans, & kit, then the cost of a car, upgrades, paint, on and on. I'd think $25k should get you there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CableSrv Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 wow 2k just for the conversion parts ? are they good quality tho ? btw i work 3pm to 12am so going to that meet won't happen for me... i only have weekends off. and i'm guessing your right.. it probably will be to much of a hassle to get a ls6. actually the hassle right now is finding a 280z... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Posted December 23, 2003 Author Share Posted December 23, 2003 280z may not be as hard as you think. Contact Jerry at All Z Car Specialist in SE Fort Worth -817-483-0383. He has all the way from a complete car to just a shell. Conversion components are good quality and include the fuel pump & pressure regulator, AC compressor & mount, engine & transmission mounts, drive shaft, radiator & speedometer drive plus the "vital fluids" package which includes hoses, etc. Contact John's Cars at Zcar@johnscars.com for details on the parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CableSrv Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 wow down to the fluids!! btw i already checked the yard at all z's and he had no running 280z's. he had a turbo 260 i think and a 240 2+2 which i hate 2+2's but he DID have lots of shells to use. but i was hoping for more than just a shell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CableSrv Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 i'm not sure i need the driveshaft, fuel pump, regulator, or speedometer things since i'm going to keep with the pcm of the ls1 and get autometer guages to fit the dash, plus i plan to use a r230 rear end with cv halfshafts so i'm not sure that driveshaft will work with the r230. and as far as fuel i plan to get a full out fuel cell with walbro fuel pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Posted December 24, 2003 Author Share Posted December 24, 2003 Now your conversion is going to cost even more. I did the speedometer thing so i wouldn't have to change out any of my gauges. $285 versus a complete set of new gauges, the hassle of changing them out and finding a new way to have turn signal indicators. The 280Z is fuel injected so its tank is already set up for fuel injection. By keeping it I, again, was able to keep my original gauge and sending unit and use the Z harness to connect and eliminate the cost of those components. You're probably right about the driveshaft if you use the R230 and CV's. You'll still end up sppending the money - just not a John's Cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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