Guest slideNsideways9 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I want to swap a vg30de into my 240 very bad but idk if it is going to be a waste of my time, too much work for nothing or whatever. Let me know about the swap please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karay240 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 anything can be accomplished w/ a lot of time & $$$. I hate saying this, but do your homework (search EVERYWHERE on the net for info) before jumping into something like this, and be prepared for anything. There are much easier, and well documented swaps out there that i'd suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 There is a member here who did this swap, can't remember his name though, use the search function. If I remember correctly it required that he notch the frame rails at the back of the engine bay to clear the exhuast manifolds. Lots of work. Like Karay240 said there are easier swaps that net as good if not better performance for less money and time. What are your goals for the car? What are you starting with? What is your budget? I just noticed you live in Washington, where abouts? Wheelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Revelation Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Im actually thinking about doing this swap as well, I'm really interested about it because of all the room that will be left under the hood towards the nose area, should be plenty of room for a large intercooler and perfect for some aftermarket turbos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks280zt Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 The members name is ZR8ED, his webpage with details on the swap and what it involves is http://zacksz.homestead.com/projectboost.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desert dog Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 The VG30DE would be a VERY tight fit in an S30. That DOHC motor is WIDE and TALL... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karay240 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Hey Sparks280zt, that link was pretty cool, but the question @ hand is the DETT swap, not the ET. This ET swap does bring an interesting example of how tight the fit is. The Z32 motor is DOHC and is SUBSTANTIALY wider than the Z31. This does even include the TWO turbos. The only 240Z I have seen w/ a successful VG30DETT in "Z Car magazine" back in '97. I've looked and looked for more info, but have been unsuccessful, so if anyone can chime in, that'd be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flippy02 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 for the vg30e would it slide in without modifying the fram rails? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR8ED Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Yes I would think the n/a vg30e will fit with no mods to the steering. It was the turbo that severly got in the way. you would still need to make the mounts for the motor, and the tranny mount only needs modding (it needs to be moved 1-2") It would have some wow factor seeing it in though, but It would not be a very budget swap compared to a l28 turbo engine. The n/a's can be made to perform very well. I know of a local n/a z31 pushing some decent power. There are still plenty of aftermarket parts avail, but not nearly like the l28 aftermarket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-Z Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 BTW are the VG blocks aluminum? I haven't really reseached vg blocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtcookson Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 cast iron blocks. the vg30de(tt) engines are quite heavy... which is somewhat odd since the vg30e(t) engines are rather light weight for a iron block, aluminum heads v6. 84-86 vg30et is roughly 396. i've heard the vg30dett is well over 500 lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karay240 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 the actual blocks are the same thing. it's the only thing that I can recall that carried over b/w the DETT and the ET. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtcookson Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 for the most part they are the same (bore, stroke, bearing sizes, bell housing bolt pattern, etc.) but some of the differences are the head bolts locations (naturally since its sohc vs. dohc) and i believe the TT block has spots for oil squirters. i'm pretty sure that the oil/coolant passages through the block to the head are likely different but overall they're the same basic design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desert dog Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 cast iron blocks. the vg30de(tt) engines are quite heavy... which is somewhat odd since the vg30e(t) engines are rather light weight for a iron block, aluminum heads v6. 84-86 vg30et is roughly 396. i've heard the vg30dett is well over 500 lbs. VG30DETT - 526 lbs. with all accessories attached The reason they are so heavy is the four robust camshafts. I bet those cams weigh close to 20 lbs apiece. Even the NA VG30DE is a heavy bastard... Those wide heads (the engine is wider than a 454 Chevy!) and the prodigious weight makes this engine not a very good swap candidate. Oh yeah, also, you have to replace the timing belt every 60K miles. Not a 15 minute job either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmilk Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 one was the guys that run the datsun resoration parts business..."too something" is their name and the other was the first to my knowledge, the white 280z that was in Turbo magazine years ago. That guy still owns the car and has a Z shop in the San Fernando valley I 've been recently told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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