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it would also likely run extremely rich as you would be releasing metered air. you would have to move the maf after the pov... but would still be pointless due to the reasons listed above.

 

the turbo would likely spool much quicker, but you would see boost spikes and its likely that the pop off valve may not flow enough to limit boost where you want it. it'd be best to just stick with the tried and true method of using a wastegate.

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GM Corvair turbo cars had no wastegate. boost was controlled by rpm and throttle position... the faster you drove the more boost you made..the more boost you made..the faster you would go!..till it would go "pop!"

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They also controlled boost on some cars/kits by sizing the turbine and turbine housing so the car never made over X PSI, even at redline.

 

That would be a very stupid idea. Overspinning a turbo will not always make it fail right away, but most commonly when big diesel trucks have a boost leak and over spin the turbine, the compressor wheel will come apart sending shards of aluminum into the intercooler and releasing the turbine wheel and shaft to head out the exhaust... not something you want to experience.

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Two things - first, if you are controlling boost with a popoff valve then the engine response will not be any faster - the popoff valve will have the same 'early cracking' issues as a wastegate would.

 

Second, by controlling boost this way (or by turbo sizing as Jason mentioned), you are forcing the compressor to run off the edge of its map, so you will be running the turbo in the most inefficient manner possible (i.e., the intake charge will get really hot, and detonation will be a much bigger problem than it normally would for a given boost pressure)

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