JustinOlson Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Anyone try to mount one of these larger 31"*10.3"*3.5" intercooler. I have one from another project that I'm going to try and get fitted. I'm going to take out the stock grill and turn signals to free up some extra room for it. I think it will look great filling out almost all of the room between the grill and air dam. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Precision-Turbo-Front-Mount-Intercooler-750-hp_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ107066QQitemZ4629212609QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW Regards, Justin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 73Turbo240z Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 i think you can do better then that... the 8" height wastes alot of un-used space that you have in the core area. go to www.jgstools.com , and shoot them an e-mail, they have a 12x24x4.7 core that they can do endtanks on for a Z. and i bet even after shipping they'll skirt in under what you'd be spending on that other intercooler. there cores are rearward facing which means easier plumbing and little to no modification of the front core support unless you want too. if your interested in one let me know and i can see what they'd want to sell them for, this one in the photo is a prototype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinOlson Posted April 11, 2006 Author Share Posted April 11, 2006 What type of core does JG use? I feel that a core near 5" thick is going to have trouble passing air to the radiator. What type of overheating issues have you seen with a core so thick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 73Turbo240z Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 bar and plate core.... i'll be able to tell you the heating habits once the cars running, i know i run a 3.5" bar and plate on my other Z and have no issues, it too is a 12x24 core Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8260 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 bar and plate core.... i'll be able to tell you the heating habits once the cars running, i know i run a 3.5" bar and plate on my other Z and have no issues, it too is a 12x24 core think 4" deep would make cooling problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 nope, shouldnt be a problem if you have a good/correct cap and good electric fan. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinOlson Posted April 11, 2006 Author Share Posted April 11, 2006 I would really like to use a high quality garrett bar and plate intercooler core. I would like to do a backdoor intercooler design so that I can fit the largers intercooler with minumal charge piping. Regards, Justin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 then this fmic is perfect for your needs. only better unit then would be a dual one sided inlet/outlet unit but those go for WAY more then this unit would cost and piping becomes tricky with space when you do that. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinOlson Posted April 11, 2006 Author Share Posted April 11, 2006 Doing a vertical flow intercooler would be great. I'm actually looking around for a good unit. We'll see what I come up with. Regards, Justin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 280ZForce Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 then this fmic is perfect for your needs.only better unit then would be a dual one sided inlet/outlet unit but those go for WAY more then this unit would cost and piping becomes tricky with space when you do that. mike ive got a one sided outlet/inlet. i had a smaller ic' date=' but now upgraded esp. since I just dropped in the stroker turbo motor. the dims r 30x11x3. should fit pretty good...i might try 2 run a cai setup that dumps out the other side. here's the amount of piping off my old setup...which will pretty much stay the same... [img']http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c105/280zforce/My%20Engine%20Swap/IMG_0041.jpg[/img] But here's my new i/c held in place to give u an idea... oh yeah...i paid $185 for it brand new. It's a turboworks or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringIt Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Doing a vertical flow intercooler would be great. I'm actually looking around for a good unit. We'll see what I come up with. Regards' date=' Justin[/quote'] Why would vertical flow be great? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOZ UP Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 i think you can do better then that... the 8" height wastes alot of un-used space that you have in the core area. go to www.jgstools.com ' date=' and shoot them an e-mail, they have a 12x24x4.7 core that they can do endtanks on for a Z. and i bet even after shipping they'll skirt in under what you'd be spending on that other intercooler. there cores are rearward facing which means easier plumbing and little to no modification of the front core support unless you want too. if your interested in one let me know and i can see what they'd want to sell them for, this one in the photo is a prototype. [img']http://album.hybridz.org/data/500/DSC07391.jpg[/img] MMm, whataburger! Those end tanks don't look too efficient... but I see they clear your rails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinOlson Posted April 16, 2006 Author Share Posted April 16, 2006 Vertical flows are more efficient with everything else being equal. The reason for this is due to the number of passages the charge air has to go through. A vertical flow will have twice as many passages as a horizontal flow core(when comparing a 24"X12" core). Due to the inherent greater cross sectional area, while retaining equal volume, the velocity of air through a vertical flow intercooler is half that of a horizontal flow. The air spends the same amount of time in the intercooler, although it only travels half the distance. Half the distance traveled through a restriction = less pressure drop and more power. Also the lower velocity helps lower pressure drop. Derivation for Flow in a Pipe: A = Cross-sectional Area of Pipe (SI: m2) v = Velocity of the fluid in the pipe (SI: m/s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringIt Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 I'm not smart enough to understand your equation. But I find it hard to believe while being pressurized to pressures of 30lbs or more that the Air takes the time to slow down and stay around longer to cool itself longer. Wouldnt the Air have less resistance throught the shorter tube and flow faster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinOlson Posted April 17, 2006 Author Share Posted April 17, 2006 Thats the thing, the motor is ingesting a set amount of air regardless of intercooler design. It is only flowing that set amount. With equal volume cores, it takes the the same amount of time for set amount of air to pass through the core. Regards, Justin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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