260DET Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Took the Z out to test the new brake setup (Outlaw 2800 front calipers, Hawk black pads on the front) and it screams when the brakes are applied. Brought her back and bevelled the leading and trailing edges of the pads, plus put anti-squeal goo on the back of the pads. No improvement. So it looks like the pads are incompatible with the rotor face finish, all new. The rears are OK, same brand rotors but Ferodo Excel pads. Any suggestions before I try to find some different pads, or else throw a tantrum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastzcars Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 sounds like the same problem I had with my wilwoods. Had wilwood tan pads. squeeled like pigs. Tried the same anti-queel goop. and the bevel thing, no go. I called wilwood direct, they said It's the nature of setup, live with it.Finally brokedown and bought EBC green pads on advise of a local autocross club. They reduced the squeel 95%. still have some noise, but only in the morning when the pads are cold. after a couple of miles of driving ,noise goes away. good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted March 1, 2002 Author Share Posted March 1, 2002 Yes, the local brake expert says that racing brake pads don't work properly until they are up to the required operating operating temp, hence the squeal when cold. So the calipers are not the problem, good, those Outlaws are too pretty to discard. As well as ordering a custom made set of pads, I'm looking at adapting a set of premium quality road pads from another vehicle by simply cutting bits off them so they fit. This may sound a bit rough but its the end result that counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted March 7, 2002 Author Share Posted March 7, 2002 For anyone that runs across this problem, I cut up a used set of road type pads off the old Toyota 4 spots to try. They still squeal a bit, but nothing like it was before. In fact it sounds sort of cool. Now these pads didn't squeal at all on the Toyota's so maybe those big heavy lumps of metal dampen the squeal causing vibration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted March 14, 2002 Author Share Posted March 14, 2002 I'm raising this problem again because it is costing me and the answer may help others. So far, Bendix Metal King Plus pads seem to be the answer. But I'm wary about using them on the track because with the previous Toyota 4 spot setup they tended to disintegrate. Tried a set of Ferodo Excel pads but they scream just as much as the Hawk's Not a squeal that can be tolerated, a high pitched, near deafening scream! Any Aussies who can suggest another brand available here? I'll report back after the coming weekend anyway, it's Saturday track time again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scca Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 hawk HPS + seem to be ok for the street, see if you can locate Dan 74. 5.0 he has the same setup and had squeal to start with and i believe he eliminated most of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ScaryFast Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 do the pads you use have a grove in the middle? My pads were screaming like banshees and I put some silicone on the back and cut the pad "meat" in half (the short way) with a hack saw. Quiet as a sleeping baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted March 18, 2002 Author Share Posted March 18, 2002 Thanks Mike and ScaryFast for your suggestions, the Ferodo pads have a centre groove and still screamed, but all suggestions are truly appreciated. Anyone tried EBC Kevlar pads? I can get those. Anyway, the Outlaw 2800 calipers with 290 x 28mm grooved rotors worked really well on the track, even if the Bendix pads started squarking on the way home. Much better retardation than the previous Toyota 4 spots with vented rotor setup, and no sign of overheating. In fact the fronts with sticky tyres will now tend to lock up at slower speeds. All the car needs now is a good driver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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