grumpyvette Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 many guys don,t realize that the rod bolt material and cross sectional area are critical to durrability , especially in a high rpm range combo,while the rods themselfs ocassionally fail, its much more likely that the rod bolts lost thier clamping strength, stretched a bit first and that was a major contributing factor in the bearing failure or the rod failure process. interesting info from ARP Other Stresses It must be realized that the direct reciprocating load is not the only source of stresses in bolts. A secondary effect arises because of the flexibility of the journal end of the connecting rod. The reciprocating load causes bending deformation of the bolted joint (yes, even steel deforms under load). This deformation causes bending stresses in the bolt as well as in the rod itself. These bending stresses fluctuate from zero to their maximum level during each revolution of the crankshaft. Fastener Load The first step in the process of designing a connecting rod bolt is to determine the load that it must carry. This is accomplished by calculating the dynamic force caused by the oscillating piston and connecting rod. This force is determined from the classical concept that force equals mass times acceleration. The mass includes the mass of the piston plus a portion of the mass of the rod. This mass undergoes oscillating motion as the crankshaft rotates. The resulting acceleration, which is at its maximum value when the piston is at top dead center and bottom dead center, is proportional to the stroke and the square of the engine speed. The oscillating force is sometimes called the reciprocating weight. Its numerical value is proportional to: It is seen that the design load, the reciprocating weight, depends on the square of the RPM speed. This means that if the speed is doubled, for example, the design load is increased by a factor of 4. This relationship is shown graphically below for one particular rod and piston http://www.arp-bolts.com/Tech/TechWhy.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 = This chart confuses me and (for me) indicates the smaller the bolt cross section, the higher the tensile strength?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyvette Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 This chart confuses me and (for me) indicates the smaller the bolt cross section, the higher the tensile strength?). I did a quick DOUBLE TAKE on that graph the first time also....look closer at the edges of the graph, its points out the STRONGER the material USED the SMALLER the dia. necessary for a given tensile strength, your limited in clearance on rod bolt max size so the material needs to have higher yeild strength, and potential durrability, to increase the rod bolt strength FROM ARP "Metallurgy for the Non-Engineer By Russell Sherman, PE 1. What is grain size and how important is it? Metals freeze from the liquid state during melting from many origins (called allotropic) and each one of these origins grows until it bumps into another during freezing. Each of these is a grain and in castings, they are fairly large. Grains can be refined (made smaller); therefore, many more of them can occupy the same space, by first cold working and then by recrystallizing at high temperature. Alloy steels, like chrome moly, do not need any cold work; to do this – reheat treatment will refine the grain size. But austenitic steels and aluminum require cold work first. Grain size is very important for mechanical properties. High temperature creep properties are enhanced by large grains but good toughness and fatigue require fine grain size-the finer the better. (High temp creep occurs at elevated temperature and depending on material and load could be as much as .001 per inch/per hour.) All ARP bolts and studs are fine grain – usually ASTM 8 or finer. With 10 being the finest. 2. How do you get toughness vs. brittleness? With steels, as the strength goes up, the toughness decreases. At too high a strength, the metal tends to be brittle. And threads accentuate the brittleness. A tool steel which can be heat-treated to 350,000 psi, would be a disaster as a bolt because of the threads." http://www.arp-bolts.com/Tech/TechMetals.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyvette Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 "are all rod stretch gauges created equal " obviously no more than all girls are equally good looking but most of the gauges are functional, some just have more features or more precise calibrations, some are adjustable in length ,over a wider range, some have digital read outs, ETC. http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2D900015&N=700+4294854225+115&autoview=sku http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/116_0609_using_rod_bolt_stretch_tool/index.html http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/techarticles/0710ch_proper_engine_fasteners/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators BRAAP Posted September 3, 2008 Administrators Share Posted September 3, 2008 "are all rod stretch gauges created equal " obviously no more than all girls are equally good looking.... HybridZ quote of the week... Good one Grump... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 What about assembly lube and torque wenches? jt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbk240z Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 HybridZ quote of the week... Good one Grump... A very good one indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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