Guest Anonymous Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 Hey guys, I was told about this site that sells DIY ceramic coating kits. After going through their site it seems like pretty good stuff. The address is www.techlinecoatings.com . Anyone heard of em or have any experience with them? According to Vizard, ceramic coating your pistons, valves, and chambers is potentially worth up to an 8% increase in power and efficiency. What I want to know though, is if heat barrier coatings decrease the detonation resistance of an engine. Any ideas? Maybe if we generate enough interest we can organize a group buy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 Sounds possible. I would take a mule engine and test on it first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyZ Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 The guy that runs the place has a Z project and used to post here as Takman57. Also, Long (Dankinzle) is a long time member and frequent poster and is formally affiliated with the shop as well. I have heard nothing bad about them, and they even offered HybridZ discounts last year on header coating. If memory serves me correctly, they had some kind of formal mention in CarCraft or Hot Rod regarding coatings--about 1 year ago (?) Good stuff. Davy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 Ceramic coating DEFINITELY has its virtues. That was never in doubt. I know that Honda has been using ceramic liners in some of its more exotic engines (NSX, Prelude SH, etc) for a while now. And ceramic impellers for turbos are the way to go now. Race car engines use ceramics all the time... Ceramics are an awesome engineering material, So many advantages to them. Problem is they're very expensive not to mention brittle. What I wanted to know was if these particular DIY ceramic coating kits were any good (e.g. will not flake off after a couple thousand miles) I am inclined to believe so, but I've got nothing to back that up with. What do you guyys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimZ Posted December 21, 2001 Share Posted December 21, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Hydra: Ceramics are an awesome engineering material, So many advantages to them. Problem is they're very expensive not to mention brittle. My pistons and exhaust ports were ceramic coated by Swain, and I have had excellent luck. The coating is very tough, and I have not seen any problems assodciated with brittleness. The price was very reasonable, too. Detonation resistance? Well, I can't say that it's the coatings for sure, but I am able to run 24psi on 94 octane pump gas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pparaska Posted December 21, 2001 Share Posted December 21, 2001 quote: Originally posted by DavyZ: The guy that runs the place has a Z project and used to post here as Takman57. Also, Long (Dankinzle) is a long time member and frequent poster and is formally affiliated with the shop as well. I have heard nothing bad about them, and they even offered HybridZ discounts last year on header coating. If memory serves me correctly, they had some kind of formal mention in CarCraft or Hot Rod regarding coatings--about 1 year ago (?) Good stuff. Davy Davy, I don't think this is correct. Tech Line Coatings has been around for a long time. Many of the ceramic coating places get their materials from them, from what I've heard. Tony's place probably does as well. I sent Tony a message a month or so ago (email) but never heard back. Is his business still going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 21, 2001 Share Posted December 21, 2001 I have only used their Black Satin product. Works well. The guy that told me about them has a site at: http://angelfire.com/ar/dw42/index.htm He coats most/all engines he builds with their products. Needless to say he like's 'em alot! Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLKMGK Posted December 21, 2001 Share Posted December 21, 2001 Ah yes, Dave Williams - a man I'd like to meet some day. Very active hot rodder and all 'round neat guymachinist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dankinzle Posted December 22, 2001 Share Posted December 22, 2001 Pete is correct that Techline is just a brand of lots of different coatings. http://www.speedtechcoatings.com is our company that offers coating services. More details can be found on the website. The company is still up and growing, but Tony has stopped doing the actual coating work for the company and I believe manages the website now. Ceramic coatings aren't actualy that brittle. I think he was referring to actual ceramic parts. At shows we used to let people bang a coated intake with a hammer to show how strong the stuff sticks. To date the only place where the manifold shows through is where some monster of a man put a 1/2" dent into the manifold . As for detonation resistance, I'm not quite sure, but Steve, who you can reach through the web can answer your questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 22, 2001 Share Posted December 22, 2001 Thanks Dan, I will email him pronto. And yes, I was referring to the brittleness of ceramic components.... Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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