TheCrazySwede
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If I ever get a L24 that I want to keep as original as possible, but I'd want it rebuilt and have some minor adjustments made to get the motor to run healthier than ever, while still keeping matching numbers, I'd definitely send my motor to Eiji. If you asked him to get a performance build while keeping all the parts OEM, this is still possible. I doubt forged pistons, rods, better valves, etc. will really harm the selling price of a Z, given that everything is kept with matching numbers (Head/Block.) I don't think the Z's are near the point where keeping EVERYTHING original will get you a selling price anywhere close to one that kept it's L-Series roots, but got a performance overhaul (sort of what I ended up doing.)
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Haha, as soon as I get the funds ready to finish the build! I'm already way above my budget as it is...and I'm currently working and going to school, so the build has since slowed a bit. Once she's up and running, you guys will be the first to know, haha. This is the only pic I've taken, right as she landed back home:
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Hey bud! Yeah, the final cost of the build will be around $11-12K. I got my engine back from Eiji about a week or two ago, so it's currently sitting in the garage. So far, I have over $8K invested into it, but I still need the carbs, ignition system and a couple of other things...should cost around $11-12K when finished. Basically, I went for his Stage III package: https://datsunspirit.com/stage-iii/ Some of the extra stuff I got: - New Rocker Arms - Adjustable Cam Timing Sprocket - Zinc Plated Dipstick - A 9lbs Flywheel - New Crank Pulley - New Thermo Housing Kit - Shipping (There and back again) Then you have the base stuff: - Stage III Engine Build * 89mm Kameari Pistons + H-Beam Rods + New Crank (3.0L Setup) + Head Work (New Cam has .290 Dur/.490 Lift) = Rod/Stroke Ration: 3.53 - Triple Weber 45DCOE's with Kameari Intake (Haven't gotten this yet) - Currently thinking about getting a MSD Racing ignition system I'm also going with a 5-Speed from the ZX. If I'm not mistaking, it looks really familiar....looks a lot like a T5.... Eiji Hosomi at DSI is a genius, to say the least. A bit inpatient at times (As a newcomer to this L-Series engines, I could tell I was stretching his patience quite a lot!) but he really knows what he's doing. Mind you, I believe in his talent so much that I actually ended up going over my budget...by 100%. He's that good, haha. Also, the idea of having a L-Series motor built the "Japanese Way" with their incredible know-how and attention to detail really appealed to me. As Eiji told me; "we only do L-engine and I drive L-engine cars every day, and we think about L-engines day in day out and all the time. I doubt they (or others) can say the same."
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The setup I was going for would include a short shifter + extender. I know MSA sells one and, in fact, the thread size is 10mm....making the available extenders compatible with it. The only worry I had is the fact that the 5 Speed I plan on putting into my Z comes from a 280ZX and the short shifter kit offered by MSA is only compatible with tranny's up to '78. I don't know too much about welding/cutting, etc. If I got a truck shifter, can it be made into a short-shifter (to decrease throw) while keeping its length? I'd have to ask a muffler shop or something to help out.
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Thanks for the reply! I wanted to get an extender so that the shifter sits higher....sort of to mimic the shifters of 50's and 60's Ferrari GT cars
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Dear Forums, I have a '77 280Z and I wanted to install an extender for the stock shifter to decrease the distance between the steering wheel and the knob. From what I understand, the original thread size is 8mm....is that correct? I can't find an extender that fits that size. Anyone know of one? Thanks!
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On the first page of this thread...but here it is: http://imgur.com/a/Fyqtv
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Engine Album updated!
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Eiji said the engine will be done in the upcoming week. What still remains are the carbs and accessories. I'm hoping to have the motor running sometime in the summer!
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Yeah, I've read about these "stroker kits" people have for their Z's. I wanted something more unique and special, so I when I came across Eiji's resume and what he can offer; I was in love. The thing about the carbs is very personal for me. As I've mentioned before, I am no veteran of building motors. This is my first involvement in a build. I also have no experience with Weber carbs, let alone three of them. The reason I insist on having them, despite some members advising that I don't due to their complexity, is because I grew up loving them. One of my favorite cars from childhood is the 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO. To me, cars just don't get better than that. When I first saw a 250 start-up in person, my ears melted to the sound of the carbs...all six of them! I've been lucky enough to have been in contact with many GTO's since then, and their sound is by far my favorite thing about the car. In fact, the GTO is what led me to fall in love with Z's. To me, it's the Japanese GTO. It has the styling and definitely has the performance capability....but it doesn't have the engine. That's the whole reason why I'm doing this build to begin with...a super car needs a super car engine, which is what my Z is getting. Why the Weber carbs? Because those are the same ones the Ferrari's ran on their engines. In short, I want to make my Z a fantasy super car that never really happen. My own Datsun GTO... Sorry for the long and historical reply regarding my adolescent years, haha. But now you know.
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Thread updated!
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Yup, no worries. This thread will be hibernating over the winter, most likely, but should spring back to life as the build commences. Happy Holidays, everyone!
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Yup, all done in house, from what I understand. No mention of torque plates. I've had about 60 emails with him thus far and most of them have been regarding goals and motives and not so much about actual procedures. As I've mentioned, this is my first involvement with an L28 build, so throwing out procedures first hand would result in everything flying over my head and just cause confusion on my end. I have since done a lot of research and can now better understand the work being done to this motor, so Eiji is going to follow me along as the build progresses. Tell me about it! I am really excited. Having spoken to Eiji about the goals for this motor, I have come to the conclusion of what exactly it is that I want. I want this motor, and eventually the whole car, be a representation of what a Japanese supercar of the 60's would have been like. Something that would fit right into the same alley of 250GTO's, D-Types and GT40's, as examples. I compete in a lot of motorsport (started karting when I was 4-5) and I've had the honor of driving a lot of these ol' supercars at historic events. There's an essence there that modern cars simply don't have. The Z, to me, has that essence, but it's missing the character. The motor, I figured, would be the heart and soul of the build, so that's why I wanted to start with it first. I eventually want to turn the whore car into an ol' supercar, which should prove to be a lot of fun!
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As of now, Eiji hasn't started work on it. I asked him to hold off until after New Year to start on it, for financial reasons. I think my final bill is around $12k with shipping costs and all, and currently I'm about half-way clear. If he had started on it already, I wouldn't have the full amount paid by the time he'd be done with it, so I asked him to start later so I could pay him accordingly. Thanks for checking in! Once the build actually begins, I'll update you guys.
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Eiji received the motor in yesterday, safe and sound. Excited to see the build in motion!
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1978 280z smooth idle, spits and spudders while driving
TheCrazySwede replied to sicripp83's topic in Nissan L6 Forum
My AFM has screws on both sides that let's me adjust it. Does yours have them? Mine was running way too lean, but runs better now. My AFM is aftermarket, so I'm not sure if yours has the same setup. Sounds like a A/F ratio problem to me, though.....ever have problems starting up? If it's running really lean, I would imagine cold-starts being an issue. -
I believe the 139.5mm Kameari FJ20 Rods are the same ones Eiji uses, along with Kameari Pistons.
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Hey Ghost! Saw the video you posted of your new motor. She's a beauty! Yeah, my current bill is around $10k, but it's being paid off in increments. It's gonna be fun finding out how she runs
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Will do! So far, I've had about 50+ emails sent back and forth with Eiji on the other end. He is very professional and courteous. I'll keep things updated as the build commences.
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The Motor is all ready to ship!
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Nah, not necessarily torquey. I'm thinking more in terms of engine speed. I asked about the different pistons and rods, etc. that Rebello uses on his builds and then looked around and found some Japanese pistons (Kameari) that weight around 280g (compared to the 432g pistons Rebello uses.) Eiji uses those and his own rods, too, which weight in about 300g lighter than the L24 ones. I wrote down all the specs from both engine builders, and when comparing the two, I liked the numbers I was getting from Eiji. Included in the build is also a 9lbs Flywheel, which will drastically help regardless of what else you're rocking inside. In short, I like the idea of having lightweight and strong internals that can handle a high-revving conditions and get there in a quick manner. That's what I mean with responsive. The same power figures with Rebello has me running on race gas (~12:1CR) with a LD28 crank and some sacrifice in every day drive ability. Eiji's build (because of the different parts he uses and how he works the heads) has me getting close to the same power figures, can run on pump gas and the engine operates extremely quick for a street motor. I've spoken to a few people on different forums, and one guy has had motors built by both parties (Rebello and Eiji) and he preferred the way the lighter engine operates. He has, so far, ordered 3 builds from him. No idea what he's up to with those, haha. He emailed me videos of his car (it's a white 240 with a black hood), so I'll ask him if it's ok if I share them.
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Ok, so my build has taken a rather different turn. I've gotten to the point in my research where I have learned all the things I wanted to know in order to start off a build. I have spoken a lot with Dave Rebello and I have come to the decision that I did not want to take my motor down that route. This is not because of Dave's lack of professionalism or talent, but more in terms of needs. The different motor builds, the more I looked into them, all sounded nice, but none of them really fit what I wanted. The power figures were all nice, of course, but I decided that I didn't want an all out powerhouse of an engine....instead, I wanted a responsive one. After talking to a few people who have worked with him before, I have decided to go with Eiji at DSI. This guy is just great. I've never encountered customer service and eye for detail on his level before. After many, many lengthy emails and phone conversations, we finally have a build down that I am completely satisfied with....well, my wallet isn't, but that's a different story! I'll update this thread with the build details as they happen, but in short, the engine will be: - L28 Crank - N42/N42 - Block bored (89mm) - DSI Pistons and Rods (I believe they are 29mm Kameari Pistons (280g!!) with custom 139.5mm rods.) - *Cam is under consideration - Triple 45 DCOE Webers - Compression Approx. 10.5 - 11.0 - Power Approx. 260/250 I'll update this thread with any updates!
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Any updates on this? Looks like an awesome project.
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Yup, true that. I'm not complaining. The build time usually takes a good 6-8 months, depending on how many times you decide to bug Dave about it. That's more than enough time for me to pay off the motor and have it ready. As I mentioned in my original post, this is my first motor and my first "real" experience with restoration. I'm giggling like a school girl at the mere thought of a Rebello motor, so I'm obviously very excited! Still reading up on all the things I'll have to do to get the engine ready to run in the car. I'm sure I can ask Dave all the questions I'll have (I doubt I'm the only doofus he has dealt with) but I would rather arrive prepared and not naked...figuratively speaking, of course. Thanks a lot everyone for all the help and support! I'll keep the thread going with any updates.
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You see, I was always under the impression that Rebello wouldn't even touch your motor if you didn't show up with a bag full of cash, haha. After talking to some people who are currently undergoing business with the Rebello team, and talking to Dave personally, I got a rough idea of the reality of the situation. Dave even mentioned that he doesn't need a full payment up front. A couple of grand is all he needs to get the ball rolling, and he can even cycle the billing or pay the rest once the motor is ready. Given that I live about an hour away from their shop, I was gonna bring in my L28 and have their talented hands put it together for me. As of now, I'm doing some research to see where I would go next, given that I do go with the Rebello route. Things I was curious about are things like ignition systems and accessories. I'm sure I can speak with Dave more about it. I've learned that I would need another starter (This one was recommended: http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?tab=search&partnum=1870137) but I don't know much about anything else. I assume I can use the later modeled oil pump and such. I got plenty of reading to do!