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280z 1976 stalls after startup. Throttle body switch?
Sjoost replied to Sjoost's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Well, finally good news. Somehow the pump contact on the AFM was very critical. Noticed it when I has the ignition on 'on" and closed the pump contact on the AFM. Pump would run. So with throttle in (and playing with the gas), the contact would regularly be lost, making the pump to stop, and making the engine run bad. Somehow (maybe due to some heat) this would occur when engine was running for some time. And the "Start" circuit runs different (for the pump at least) and that is why it would start every time with no issue. Bent the contact a bit, so it would -
280z 1976 stalls after startup. Throttle body switch?
Sjoost replied to Sjoost's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Update, I installed a 0,6 ohm coil. Issue was still there. I upgraded my Ignition module to a HEI (flame Thrower D2000) and jumped the ballast resister Run the car today. When the car is warm starts running bad. With my fuel pressure gauge installed, I noticed the pressure dropped to 0! Somehow the pump stops running after engine is warm! If I startup again, it runs fine, but pump stops sooner as the engine is warm. I also noticed, when I play with the gas peddle by moving it heavily, the rev meter jumps around and also to 0 sometime! But why would -
1977 280Z dash vents not blowing
Sjoost replied to Chickenwing's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Nice write up Chickenwing, On another note, I did not have the same issue, but my wind shield blowers were not working from the leavers. Only then I found out that with an AC system on a 280z 1976 model, the flaps all work with engine vacuum. Cheers, Joost -
280z 1976 stalls after startup. Throttle body switch?
Sjoost replied to Sjoost's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Update: Checked fuel pressure valve vacuum line for possible leak to inlet manifold. But the line was dry. No signs of petrol going through there. That one ruled out. -
280z 1976 stalls after startup. Throttle body switch?
Sjoost replied to Sjoost's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Wow that gives me a lot of clarity. I did find out from the FSM that the cali model has one pickup point and the non cali, 2. Also the wiring is bit different (3 wires). For sure now I know that when my coil comes in, I will try that first. Then upgrade the HEI and see what that does. I will leave the distributer as it is for now. Today I rechecked all the sensors on the thermostat housing, and found my thermostat itself bit worn out. Not sure if that was functioning as should, but it did open eventually when I put a heat gun on it. I will replace it anyway. I also still have -
280z 1976 stalls after startup. Throttle body switch?
Sjoost replied to Sjoost's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
NewZed, Question, will a HEI module also work with the stock point contacts in the distributer? What startup resistance, and running resistance would it need for a coil with the HEI installed, with point distributer? I have purchased a low resistance Flame thrower II (0.6 ohm) which firstly I was planning to replace just the current 1,8 ohm coil. This to see if my issue is solved. If that does not give improvement, I will put in the HEI module (pertronix d2000) and replace the stock ignition module. As I understand, the external resister can then be bypas -
Great SteveB, Thx for reporting back. I remember the feeling, when finally the needle of oilpresser showed a good reading after trying so many senders. I still have a water temperature sender which is not showing anything on my gauge. gauge is file. also here, i have tried few senders already.... Take care. Joost
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280z 1976 stalls after startup. Throttle body switch?
Sjoost replied to Sjoost's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Wow nice links. I will indeed also update the Ignition module as per the instruction. Ordered the items already. I will also update my coil. Thx so far. -
280z 1976 stalls after startup. Throttle body switch?
Sjoost replied to Sjoost's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
NewZed, I agree. Arcing to negative will kill my ECU. I checked the seating of the center wire in the coil, and really doubt it was seated correctly. I moved the isolation cap a bit further down the cable, to be able to protrude the wire connecter further into the coil. I did not start the engine after that. I do have the impression, that the arcing was due to that and could have been solved now by setting the wire in better. Still, I am doubting the condition of my coil. The resistance & Richness of fuel mixture. From EE-34: My comb -
280z 1976 stalls after startup. Throttle body switch?
Sjoost replied to Sjoost's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
NewZed, Indeed did mark the original location on the AFM indeed. I agree, that adjusting it leaner would prob not provide the solution to the real issue. I have 2 spare ECU's which I also tested, making no difference. Alo, I did not see any strange RPM needle movement. I did see some strange voltage movments i now recall. Therefore now I am really focusing in the Ignition coil. What is your thought on the Ignition coil being bad, and with too high resistance and not dropping back. I got that info from this video: -
280z 1976 stalls after startup. Throttle body switch?
Sjoost replied to Sjoost's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Today's followup, Issue was, that somehow my pump would stop running after START (and a very rich fuel mixture). I checked the ignition relays. I wanted to check that after START (so in ON position), the relay was working to supply power to the AFM and Pump. I also checked the fuses in that line. All fine. I screwed back in, the Idle/flap bypass screw on the AFM. So it would force more flow through the main flap. BAM! the pump would not die anymore from START to ON. Apparently the bypass was too big, not closing the pump switch in the AFM (which only happens when the flap -
280z 1976 stalls after startup. Throttle body switch?
Sjoost replied to Sjoost's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
hhm did some study of FMS and injection manual, Could also be the pump contacts on AFM or, the throttle switch idle contact not being closed. In both cases, pump will stop running in the "ON' position (safety measures when engine stalls due to crash, fuel pump should stop also). Well I have some work to do this Christmas. Corona helps keeping you working on your Datsun! Merry Xmas Z lovers. -
280z 1976 stalls after startup. Throttle body switch?
Sjoost replied to Sjoost's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Hi ETI2K, Thank for your thoughts. I did operate the AFM flap, and would indeed get changes in the engine sounds. But eventually I ruled out the AFM as I was of the assumption that my issue was the engine running too rich and stalling. All the EFI sensors seem to work in a way that you can easily adjust it to make it richer, but making it run leaner seems to bit harder. Anyway, I think I did make good progress today. I was changing out some other things so I did not actually run the engine when testing the fuel pressure. After I finalized all those works, today I c -
SteveB, Sorry for the confusion. I have an early 280z, which has the one wire setup. But the operation to the gauge is still the same, I expect. Resistance should be 1/8" below 0 psi - infinite ohms (open circuit). 0psi - 90ohms 60psi - 25 ohms 90psi - 12 ohms For the two wire version, I am not sure, but if you know the switch setting needed, and the sender gives the correct ohm's, it should work.
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280z 1976 stalls after startup. Throttle body switch?
Sjoost replied to Sjoost's topic in S30 Series - 240z, 260z, 280z
Hi all, Just update. Installed fuel pressure gauge today, and I had a nice 2.5-2.6 bar. So I am ruling fuel pressure out for now. I managed to find 1,5 ecu's which I hope to get in soon. I will try those. Today I cleaned the sparkplugs also. All were dry, but black. I think that is the sign for too rich (but correct me if I am wrong). From the fact that they were all dark, in similar shape, I would also rule out one of the injectores not closing (as the richness would not be to all 6). And I have already inspected and tested the cold start injector. Noting found there.