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Their is alot of info on the RB25, RB26 on the top of the 6cly engine page, on stickys, lots of info! Check it out. Edit: After understanding what you want to do with this car ill give you my 2 cents. Look into info on 200zr's (they are rb20 powered z31s) Lots of info can be found on these cars. And If you want to drift usualy you want to cut down most of the weight as MUCH as possable. Ofcourse most car use SR20s for drifting, basicly cuz the S Nissan Chassie is very popular. Really you want a motor that have little lag, good High RPM power and abillity to rev. because when you drift you want the revs. Id look into the SR20, not to be generic, but ive seen Z33s rock SR20s, becuase of the ability to mod them quite inexpensivly. The CA18DET is a good motor also, but might not pound out the Tourqe you want. I mean the VG30ET is a good motor for the most part, why not just stick with that. Also look into gearing, most drift cars have 4.36 Final Drive gearing, ofcourse depending on the car. Gearing is key is what ive noticed. And if you look into the 200zr you will noticed the RB25 isent that uncomman of a swap with 200zr's because of more power and less lag, and the added displacment would help alot. The real thing you should be worrying about if you are making a drift car is what setup you are running for suspention and chassie support. Keep us updated. Matt

Just going to clerf. If I am running a L28ET with a Powr steering pump already on it, it will be fine with the Impreza rack? Also how much do all of this run you guys (eather spectrum would be good, which would be new parts, and JY parts)

Thanks for all the help, ive gotten some good emails and PMs about cars that people have, im looking into each of them. And I will look into the texas cars, thanks Matt

My thoughts down to the T. Thats kinda what I ment by it would be worth it to drive. Yea, its really to bad I live in MN, all the Zs hear are rusted like CRAZY

I live in MN, St Paul area. I will drive depending on if its a good find.

What I am looking for is a good place to pick up Zs. Ive been looking on Ebay, but all of those are usualy restored Zs. Thats not really what im looking for. Im looking for eather a stripped caged Z, or even a unfinished project, (cage, unpainted, unrunning, any of those will work). But latley ive been seeing only restored cars, and I dont want to pay 2000$ more for MINT interior Im just going to rip out.. but at the same time I dont want a rusted out destroyed Z. Can anyone point me in the right direction??

ahhaahh GENIUS! All that needs to be said

Yes, I totaly agree with that. To bad im in MN, I rarly see Zs around here. Unless their z31,z32,z33. S30s are RARE in good shape around here. Also just to kinda stay on topic, with wheels, do you any of you guys go with like crazy offsets, ive noticed that most Z wheels that you guys put on fit correctly, which I love. On my s13 I run -27 offset on an 8.5 wheel, but ive noticed lots of bump steer, is this just as much of a problem with the Z, or less? I loved runnig those in front the best, the controll while drifting was AMAZING, The extra track in the front helped alot for the low speed stuff. Just wondering what you guys would run with such a nice setup. Also to add to the mix (maybe I shouldent have all of this in one thread but....) Which see coilovers seem to perform the best. I just checked out your site JohnC, your coils look very very nice, I am wondering if you will at one point offer Adjustable front and Rear arms somwhat like AZC? Again, thanks for the imput

Right, ive relized this, thats why I stated that I need to stop comparing them to s13 and other drift cars with a more modern chassie. Ive come to the impression that possably I need to drive a S30 with a nice 300lb or 250lb suspention and see how it works for me.

Awesome, thank you so much for all the responces. I know of drift setups usualy run, and maily it depends on your style of driving, this is what ive noticed. Theres: Power Balanced Braking Power- Will usualy use heavyer springs in the back, and a little bit softer in the back, so that they use mainly power to controll the car around the corner. The reason its softer in the back is because it is easyer to regain controll while in a slide. Balanced- Balanced will usualy use equal front and rear spring rates. This setup is nice for a car that is TOTALY balanced brakes and everything, meaning if it is setup perfect, you should be able to use power while drifting, and be just as affective as the power setup. And at the same time be able to use weight transfer (feint tech) and add braking to slide the car, or get it sliding at a high speed. This setup is the best is you have a car setup just right, and can be one of the best if you use alot of diffrent ways of sliding your car. Braking- Braking runs heavy rears and softer fronts. This setup is QUITE squirrly. You use the rear brakes and weight transfer to brake the rear tires loose. Because of the heavy spring rates in the rear it brakes loose easy, and once you get it sideways by just using the footbrake you can mix in throttle controll to controll it around the corner. Down side of this setup it is somtimes hard to get back strait because the rear just wants to stay out because of the heavy springrate in the rear. The setup I really wanted was braking because that usualy how I run it in my S13, I have 9kg in front and 7kg in back. I can do braking drifts, but Id like it stiffer so that I could do them better, mixing in the feint technique fixs alot of things. (A tech of swaying the car right to left till you feel the car losing traction in the rear, and at that point you can choose to gas it or downshift or brake, all of which will get you sideways). Also regarding the tire issue, usualy drifters when they just start trun streached tires. Meaning you throw a 205/60/15 all season on a 8.5" wide wheel. Which means you have a skinny tire with VERY LITTLE tirewall flex making it Extreammly easy to get the car sideways. Seeing as tire flex is usualy gives you that mean recoil or kickback when you get sideways. This season I run though 6 sets of tires, granted 5 sets where basicly free seeing as I got them for time places that dident want them anymore. Maybe its just im stuck on the S13 style of tuning when Tuning the Z. Usualy s13 people dont run hardcore sway bars. Maybe instead of a CRAZY springrate, I should look into swaybars, and just run somthing like 350lbs eather all around, and get an adjustable rear swaybar so that I can controll my setup. I've been looking into race car setups, and this seems to be what they usualy do, which I think ill try. Also the reason I was stuck on springrates is ive been looking at pro. D1 (drift series of racing) And they run 9kg all the way up to 22kg on some of their cars. Granted the 22kg is in a SC300, but the point still stands, I guess as stiff as you can go without ripping your chassie in half is the best from what I can tell. Quicker240- I agree that if you are just starting drifting a Autocross setup is best, or even stock, you need to learn how to use weight transfer and the most ruthless and difficult setup is stock. But just remember, when you change the suspention, you need to learn all over again, everything changes. The BIGGEST diffrence ive felt with the s13 is getting a Clutch type aftermarket LSD (Tomie Trax 2 way). I would get that before you do anything, it enables you to controll the car with AMAZING ease. But yea, sorry I dident respond early. Thanks alot for all the help, and I hope I explained myself and my reasons for wanting to run the setup that I mentioned. -Matt

I would normaly say that, but a Toyota AE86 corrolla, on the d1 cars, they run those setups more like 9k and 7k rear, but that car is alot lessweight than s30. So what is the stiffest you have ever seen a springrate go and no have to get totally custom shocks? Thanks for the imput

I totaly agree, best commecial ever!

Ok my last thread I started was created regarding an 84 Maxima I was looking to get. I have reccently changed my mind and decided to get a 240z. I found the one I want and have decided everything that is going to go on it. But one thing still vex's me, I really want to run 10kg springs in front and 11kg in rear (eq to est f/560lb r/616lb). I am building this car for drifting and road racing. Yes yes Ive noticed that drifting is kinda taboo on this forum, ill take the flames as they come. Anyways, I need to know if anyone is running this extreme of a setup on their cars, and what strut combo you are running along with this. Also I am looking to run a 10 point cage with reinforced Strut housings. But im not sure what struts can handle that high of a springrate. I have looked into the Arizona Z Car setup, the 1500$ per corner racing setup, and I know they offer a 500lb spring, but I have yet to find anyone who runs an extreme of a setup (and yes ive searched here and read many many posts). Can anyone help me with this?

http://www.hybridz.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=35845 their you go

Im from Minnesota and almost all of that is true for MN also, except alot of the hardcore country stuff, well depending on the area.

Well for starters im kinda new here, and im not really new to forums, so Ive been searching day and night on this forum for pics of what I want my car to look like, but cant seem to find the exact thing. But anyways I was wondering what a 240z with the YZ Rear widebody and Subtle Z front widebody would look like with the G Nose conversion. Ive Seen Dan Jundays car, which has the front and rear that I want, but cant really tell how the car flows from those 2 little pics ive seen on the Recation website. This is kinda half a picture request and half, "will this look good, or will it look like crap" post. Thank

What rear disc are you thinking about using, Z32? s13? Also are you going to be running 4x4 in front? Are you going to run the Motorsports 5lug rear and front? Or just go the OEM Z31 route, IIRC that works. DETAILS!

If your going to get wheels wheels from Discount Tire get the MG Motorsport wheels 17x9, come in +27 and +17 offset with a 5x114.3 BP, and I here their quite light for the size of the wheel, like 18lb

If you want wheels in a low or negative offset, id recommend checking the the for sale section of http://www.zilvia.net http://www.ziptied.com http://www.takumiproject.com On zilvia ive seen some 18x12 with a -12 offset (would requite possably widebody) and 18x11 in front for 1200$, which is a steal IMO, 5x114.3 Again these are quite agressive offsets and widths, you might needs the YZ (iirc) Wide body to run these, Im not sure a normal 30mm ZG flaire will cover it.

Search for STI/WRX (ONE WORD) and you will find a thread breaking down the hole prosess. Just adding to the thread has anyone ever put a one turn rally rack into a Z? That would be kinda neat

I know why, cuz it doesnt have Rear MacPhearsons. I guess I need to do a bit more reading, thanks.

Very very interesting, im learning quite a bit. Im suprised ive seen them run 650lb springs on 240sx (s13s and s14s) with no strut mods done to the body. So I take it this is a diffrent ball game. So basicly if I want to go over 350 I need a full cage and re-welded strut housing in the front. Lucky im near a few racing shops who build custom stuff, Ill have the bring the maxima in their, and have them check it out. Also those coilovers on MM say they are for all 4 corners. But like I said before im not even sure if thats for the 280zx...

So the shocks and struts and all of that the 280zx/510 share, or just the overall suspetion layout is simular?