I hear you on Chris Bangle being a ******. Its interesting to think about the line between a car being art and just a machine. Funtion over form is a good viewpoint, as putting alot of time into just looking fast,(aka loud annoying muffler and v-tec) is pointless unless your car really is fast and serves a purpose. The car lifestyle can be very idiotic. Just because you have a cool car doesn't mean your a cool person. Some people buy cars just to show off and not because they truly love to drive it. I personally have a love/hate relationship with BMW. I just dislike the show-off nature of having one yet I have to admit they are amazing machines. Thus a retro 240z with a bimmer engine would be perfect