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I think I figured it out, thanks

Ok so I had the knobs shaved back down and the new gap measurements are as follows. .9100 thousands on the driver side and 1.000 on the passenger side. I'm going to hack off 200 thousands from each side and see how that works out.

Can someone post links to purchase a good quick release that has worked for bigger guys? I'd like to install one in my car I'm 6'2

I can always mill down the thickness a bit. I'm going to crawl under there and get a more accurate measurement tonight. It's pretty wild to think that the axle being around only 1/2" to short could cause this problem.

Yep, With the knobs shaved back down to spec I've calculated that my gap will be 7/8" I will have 3/4" thick spacers made leaving me 1/8" gap. From what I've been told this should be enough gap to allow the axle to articulate properly

jake (xnke) helped me figure out what we think is the real problem. Previous owner as you can see in the recent pics tried to stop the axle from walking inside the cups by "extending" the bump stop inside the cup. Im going to cut them back down to what they should be, put them back together/re install them and find my gap, subtract 1/8" and get my spacers made..

Ok guys please correct me if im wrong. This is my interpretation of what was being asked of me. I jacked the car up high enough that the suspension is in full droop (tire completely off the ground) I then reinstalled the axle attaching the bearing cup to the wheel hub. I then fully compressed the shaft and measured the difference between the companion flange (dif) and the bearing cup that would sit against it. I got about 3/8"gap soooooim assuming that i need a 3/8" spacer?

And of course i did not pay attention to which one came out of which side

I hope i can get this squared away by friday night.. If not i would love some assistance.

Just when i think i got it figured out i see this.. wtf? Got two like this (same height) This one is about 1/2" tall This one is about an inch tall Im assuming each axle gets a cup with the longer "bump stop" but which side of the axle gets the longer one and why is one 1/2" and the other 1"???

Ok thanks. No im fine i have two "new" ones i picked up from the junkyard today, thanks though

Thanks all for the replies, as Sunny mentioned the stock axles are infact different from end to end. I was able to source a set of of CV cups at my local yard today. I will be reinstalling them to check for movement so i know how thick to make the new adapters. I am also interested in the idea of camber/alignment throwing these axles out of wack. I noticed that the rear wheels look like they are slightly pointing inwards.. is this even possible or are the flares just playing tricks on my eyes?

Does anyone know if the stock q45 axles have the same bearing cup on both ends? I only need two cups and don't want to order two complete axles if I can get away with ordering one.

Alright thanks, I wasnt sure if there was a specific year i needed to look out for.

I have dropped MM a couple emails with photos to let them know the trouble I'm having. I'm going to take a cup to work with me tomorrow and con a machinist into making me some adapters on company time. Looks like 3/8" is the latest thickness? That seems a bit more appropriately sized. One last question before I hit the sack, what year model axles should I be looking for, for the q45 axles? Thanks again everyone for the input. Looks like ill have this beast on the road by next weekend.

Picture A represents the bearing holder installed with the grooved ring installed on the inside and picture B is with the grooved ring on the outside. Im calling the "inside" closest to the center of the axle and "outside" would be the wheel or dif depending on which side of the axle you are working on. Picture A Picture B They came out of the car with picture B.. It looks to me that installing them with the grooved ring on the outside would infact "make the axle longer" or at least give it more room travel in and out of the cup. In figure A it seems to center up the bearing carrier but does not provide much travel. It looks to me like figure A would actually put more stress on the snap ring and cause the bearing to chew up the cup. If what i am saying is makes sense than even though these axles where installed "properly" there is still additional spacing needed to prevent this from happening again right? Hence the spacer you guys are using.

This is one of the things that sucks about buying a used car i have no idea what is really in the car. I like the Idea of using an adapter. It seems to have worked for a few guys and seems to be a simple fix. If i could find some replacement cups i would be in business.

Any sources on the cups? and by "flipping that whole axle" Do you mean the bearing holders inside of the cup? grooved ring towards the inside of the axle?

Looks pretty simple to me. Did you install one on both sides of the axle or just the side that was tearing up the cage? Im having pull out on both axles. The driver side is tearing up the cage that bolts to the diff while the the passenger is tearing up the cage bolted to the hub. One inch is what you used correct? ALSO (sorry for all the dern questions) which way would you re-install the "race" or bearing holder? grove closest to the center of the axle or towards the wheel? Annnnnd last but not least where is the best place to find a couple spare cages?

you wouldnt happen to have a picture of one so i can get an idea of what it is you are referring to? im still very new to independent rear suspensions. also would'nt longer axles be a good fix as well? open to options

btw the previous owner says it has TTT rear brace MM axles MM billet r230 cv adapters and the rear end is a R230

how did you fix it? longer axles? i have already torn the axles out of the vehicle can i measure this with it out? The axle is right at 12" long by itself. And im sorry but my lingo with these suspension parts is non existent. can you give it to me in retard terms? *edit* when i suspend the assembled axle up and down making it as long as i could possibly be it measures 16" from one end of the cup to the other

http://forums.hybridz.org/topic/110716-mm-cv-axle-converstion/?do=findComment&comment=1035280 having some trouble with this setup tearing up the "cages" i think they are called. Im new to Z's and just bought this car, looking to get this squared away ASAP. thanks in advance.

thank you

by flipping the cages you mean installing the cage with the embedded grove to the inside of the axle?