DatsunZman04 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Hello, I recently traded a datsun fan some parts for these type 2 skirts for my 72 datsun 240z. I have the right adhesive I was going to use plus use self taping screws on both ends in the fender wells. I wasnt going to use fiber strand and bondo the lines out. just have the look of a straight body kit. My question is under the doors, were the kit lines up with the bottom of the door, what do I use to adhere it to the car? my skirts fit awkward near the door sill and skuff plates. Should I just screw it down and use adhesive then back out the screws and bondo over the holes? or just leave the screws in? Which method would look best? I planned on leaving the screws in the fender wells, is this a good idea? I know I have lots of questions, and know I'am capable of doing this, I just dont want it to look tacky in the process. so any help would be appreciated. I can add pictures if needed. Thanks again DatsunZman04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deja Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I stuck mine on with 3M panel adhesive and then molded them to the body with Rage Gold. I did use sheet metal screws to hold them in place while the adhesive set up. Then removed the screws, put POR-15 into the holes and then filled in the skirt holes with Rage Gold. I used bolts and nylon nuts at the fender wells as well as the panel adhesive but left those bolts in place. The sills are tough since no fiberglass part really fits all that well. Just get them as tight as possible to the Datsun sill using the adhesive and screws and then remove the screws. If you don't there is a chance the screw heads will hit the doors when they close. One thing I added was a 1/8" strip of fiberglass along the outside bottom of the door so it better matches the body contours, make it look more factory I think. Again I used adhesive and the temporary screws. I also added 2 bracket on the bottom of the skirts and bolted the other side of the bracket to the bottom of the rocker to give the skirt more support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatsunZman04 Posted June 30, 2011 Author Share Posted June 30, 2011 Thanks for the reply, I'am trying to get my car up to par for my towns car show. I just wanted to add the skirts to give my car a diffrent look. Wheres the best place to get some POR-15 ? and how expensive is it? I always mest with 3m fiberall bondo and some other stuff but never messed with POR-15. Thanks for the reply I appreciate the picture, you have a nice ride. thanks DatsunZman04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deja Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Thanks for the reply, I'am trying to get my car up to par for my towns car show. I just wanted to add the skirts to give my car a diffrent look. Wheres the best place to get some POR-15 ? and how expensive is it? I always mest with 3m fiberall bondo and some other stuff but never messed with POR-15. Thanks for the reply I appreciate the picture, you have a nice ride. thanks DatsunZman04 POR-15 is a rust preventive paint. I added it to the holes in the sheet metal where the screws were to prevent possible rusting. Summit sells it now or get it direct from http://www.por15.com/. It is expensive, buy it in pint cans, it does not store well after opened. But any simular product will work and you might be able to fine an alternative local and save the shiping. Since I had sanded my car to bare metal I used it to paint the rockers before installing the skirts since I knew I would not be about to get a paint gun in there after the skirt installation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOTHALOSISM Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Another product that can be used is called rust bullet. You might be able to get easier and cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatsunZman04 Posted July 6, 2011 Author Share Posted July 6, 2011 Ok so I trial fitted them on the car, ground down some corners and held them in place with metal self tapping screws. Once I got them where I liked them I used loctite polythane adhesive sealant for the edges and used the screws to hold them in place. I used boards and claps to help hold them in place while the glue was setting up. This worked ok but I ended up shooting a 3/16 large washer pop rivits on the sides where the datsun symbol wasto help a snug fit and stop bubbling expansion. The side skirts are on solid know but still deciding to remove the pop rivits or not on the car. I could drill them out, fill them with an rust preventor and bondo/fiberglass over the holes or leave the three pop rivits in for more of a racer look. I will have to put pics up and get your gise opinions. Thanks again for the help, I will post up some pics when its finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deja Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 (edited) I have used that polythane adhesive in a lot of places in my car. It is some crazy strong stuff. In fact I glued a block off plate to my firewall with it but later decided I wanted to use that hole and could even beat the patch off with a hammer. The down side of it is that it never really gets totally hard. There is always some minor flex to it. I tried using that before I decided to mold my skirts on but the paint always cracked at the seam between the skirt and the fender. Edited July 6, 2011 by deja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatsunZman04 Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 Deja So what exactly did you end up using for the seems from the side skirts to the car? I was going to use a paintable silicone adhesive and then paint over it. I just dont want to run bondo down my whole car just for a smoother transition of the side skirts. What fender flare are you running on your car zg's? Do you think ZG fender flares would interfear with the molded side skirts? Thanks for your input Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deja Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Deja So what exactly did you end up using for the seems from the side skirts to the car? I was going to use a paintable silicone adhesive and then paint over it. I just dont want to run bondo down my whole car just for a smoother transition of the side skirts. What fender flare are you running on your car zg's? Do you think ZG fender flares would interfear with the molded side skirts? Thanks for your input What I used is 3M 08116 panel adhesive. Its expensive and takes a duel cartridge gun, also expensive. But this is what the automotive industry uses on new cars. I then used Rage Gold (bondo) to smooth the transition at the fenders. I also blended the ZG flares but that was major modification to the flares since there is little area where the flares actually make contact with the fenders. I cut my skirts at the body line and then expended the fares to blend in. If you still have the full skirt running up onto the fender I would assume the flares would need some minor modification, should be easy to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatsunZman04 Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 I see, thanks for the picture of your side skirts. I like how you modded the skirt shorter in the front. I thought about it but decided to take the easy route. I will find something to make a smootheir transition on the car. I have this weekend to figure it out and start painting them to match the car. I will have to post a before and after pic. I dont believe I will mess with flares, since I dont have diff hubs or nice wide rims. It would be hard to fill the void. I am already running 245 65 r14s on the back and 175 70r 14 in the front I think, somwhere around that ballpark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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