auxilary Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 So, here's a question... I have a set of CCW 16x8 wheels with 245/45/16 tires, but the backspacing is wrong on them for my Z car. They stick out too much to fit under stock setup, and probably don't stick out enough for flares. These are 2 piece rims, and I need to to increase the backspacing. So, here are my questions: 1. How much am I looking to spend to have the center piece rewelded for different backspacing? This is for all 4, and it needs to be done well enough to hold up in racing events. the center piece would be moved out to increase backspacing, so old welds wouldn't be visible. 2. How much do I need to increase the backspacing to fit these without flares? Or, what it should be at, is the better question? I measured these a while ago, and i think the backspacing was at either 4" or 4.5". I will also need to take into account that front wheels will need to have 1/4" spacers to clear the toyota calipers 3. Anyone know where I can get these locally done in Bay Area, Ca? These wouldn't be cheap to ship! thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl327 Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 work would be at least 100.00 a wheel, minimum, right up therre with flares, have you contacted ccw to see if they can do it for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted March 4, 2003 Author Share Posted March 4, 2003 I am sure CCW would do it without a problem...but the problem is that CCW is in Florida! Shipping 40lb wheels with tires to florida would get rather expensive.... but if it's 100/wheel... vs. $170 for BRE flares, + molding and paint... this would get even more expensive. My other option is to get Subtle Z fenders, but those are 700 for a pair, + cost of paint... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl327 Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 well it seems there is no cheap way around it huh... you could always just bolt up your own zg flares and paint them black for the time being, it costs to be the boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted March 4, 2003 Author Share Posted March 4, 2003 true... but the thing is I am not too interested in putting flares on unless they are perfectly molded and have that "right" blend to them, which will require more money than I have to spend. I'll just sit on it and wait unless there's something cheaper than 400 bucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl327 Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 thats cool, sit on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 Sell the wheels, buy some with correct off set. You don't want just anyone welding on you wheels. New centers from CCW would be the only way I would go. Other wise, looks like flairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted March 4, 2003 Author Share Posted March 4, 2003 Well, i can't get a new set of CCW wheels because they'd cost a LOT more than what I paid for these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 Please don't take this the wrong way. Don't mean to sound like a smart a$$ but you haven't finished paying for those wheels. Sound like you are going to need paint and body work and some flairs to make them work. Factor that into the cost of new wheels or having those modified by CCW. MArk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Juday Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 SubtleZ Alex. You be bad in black! Don't mind the dough. That's what the Visa is for. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 1. How much am I looking to spend to have the center piece rewelded for different backspacing? This is for all 4, and it needs to be done well enough to hold up in racing events. the center piece would be moved out to increase backspacing, so old welds wouldn't be visible. I'm assuming you have a deathwish if you're considering the above. If not, I think you're only cheap solution is to run 235 or 225 size tires. 245s are a bit wide for 8" rims if you're talking about road racing or autocross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted March 5, 2003 Author Share Posted March 5, 2003 Well, I'm not saying have some hockey shadetree mechanic do it, but a professional shop. Why would this pose a problem [or, deathwish, as you put it]? The rims are originally two piece and there's a weldseam on the back. Is it because the metal would be weakened from previous welding around the edge of the inner piece? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl327 Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 you lose your i got them 800 braggin rights when you do that, thats why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted March 5, 2003 Author Share Posted March 5, 2003 hahahah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl327 Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 any good rim shop could do the backspace change i believe, but man aux, you know that kills the cheap ass price you got em for right? flares would kill it too i guess-you know what, man why do good rims for these cars have to be so hard to get-then once they do, you gotta go adaptors, flares, custom, if you want bigger than 7" gawd it really sucks doesnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted March 5, 2003 Author Share Posted March 5, 2003 exactly. it'd cost a fortune to get flares done right, and it'd cost a fortune to either fix the rims or get them replaced. Either of which I'll do much later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl327 Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 thats after the rotary, sr20det, and lt1 right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted March 5, 2003 Author Share Posted March 5, 2003 exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 9, 2003 Share Posted March 9, 2003 I am sure CCW would do it without a problem...but the problem is that CCW is in Florida! Shipping 40lb wheels with tires to florida would get rather expensive.... Your local tire shop can remove the tires and put them back on for $25 for the set. That could save mega shipping bucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted March 10, 2003 Share Posted March 10, 2003 I guess I don't understand the CCW wheels you have. All the one's I've seen from John Perner have the centers bolted to the rims. If you have a machined aluminum center that's welded to a spun or formed aluminum rim you could re-weld the center in a different position on the rim if: 1. The rim was designed to have the centers in different places. 2. The aluminum is not a hardened type (T6) which would require re-hardening after welding. Remember, the aluminum in the heat affected zone looses all of its hardening so it reverts back to the basic state of the alloy (T0). 3. You find a shop that specializes in doing exactly this to wheels. My big concern would be getting the center centered and square in the rim and not creating an out of balance condition with weld metal. Good lcuk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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