stony Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 sounds like a very cheap method to upgrade SDS for af ratio/booste/rpm/knock datalogging? I need more info.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moridin Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 There was a group buy a while back on svtperformance.com. Let me get you the link, because it had one of the techs, who helped develop the system, giving information. ...Ok, here's the link http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57919&highlight=group+buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB26powered74zcar Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 I bought one in sept. and have it hooked up to my Tec2, controlling the fuel/ego. There are several forums that have long positive reveiws going on it. One of these are a yahoo forum set up by the man himself who desighned/sells them >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/InnovateLM1/ OR >>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/InnovateLM1/messages/ HERE IS A COUPLE MORE >>http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=227021&perpage=25&pagenumber=5 >>> http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/lm1.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB26powered74zcar Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 Stony, I see that you had aready seen/joined the yahoo LM-1 discussion board.... If I can answer anything for you , please don't hesitate to PM me joel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted November 15, 2003 Author Share Posted November 15, 2003 I talked to someone at innovate yesturday and got the info i need. just waiting on the aux 2 cable to come out so i can monitor RPM. Once that come out i should be able to turn my car into a little dyno.... without hp numbers of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB26powered74zcar Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Stony... from what I've seen latlely, this part your after is now out and ready for purchase.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB26powered74zcar Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Well, I haven't seen much buz on this site from anyone buying/using this WB meter>> http://www.tuneyourengine.com It's really about the best WB for the buck out there. I have/use it and think if anyone of you guys are thinking of buying a Wide Band AFR Meter. you should check this one out above... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speeder Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 I recently have had use of the LM-1 for tuning a friend's car. I have the RPM converter cable and am using the datalogging function to record data onto a laptop and make plots of TPS , MAP, RPM and AFR. We're working on getting a rather unconventional aftermarket ECU set up - It's a Perfect Power unit that uses throttle position versus rpm maps and has a very weird (to me, anyhow) MAP scaling scheme. The car (3.1 L28) has a big cam and 10.5:1 compression and has been a real biatch to tune for driveability. I just got the sensor inputs set up yesterday and the LM-1 recording - looks like a big help for tuning. The LM-1 is the best / cheapest/ easiest to use I've seen. The only negative is the packaging that doesn't lend itself to permanent mounting. However, the unit fits perfecty on a 280Z's console over the ash tray for convenient use. Throw in the use of the cheap Bosch LSU sensor ( the NTK used by my FJO costs in excess of 200.00 now) and the superiority of Innovate's digital design, and finally, the low cost of the LM-1, IMO It's by far the best choice for WBO2s out there. So much for the "Shameless Plug." If anyone's interested in seeing the plots let me know and I'll post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB26powered74zcar Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 The LM-1 is the best / cheapest/ easiest to use I've seen. The only negative is the packaging that doesn't lend itself to permanent mounting. However' date=' the unit fits perfecty on a 280Z's console over the ash tray for convenient use. [/quote'] I know where your coming from Rick. This is what I did to My LM-1 to solve the "no where to put it" issue... I MADE THIS 1/8 LEXAN HANGER FIRST WITHOUT A PIVOT POINT THEN I CUT AND PUT A PIVOT POINT ON IT TO WHERE IT FOLDS UP AND GOES INTO THE GLOVE BOX NICE AND COZZY THIS MAKES IT EASY TO READ/ SEE WHILE DRIVING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax240z Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 I'm interested in seeing some plots/pics rick... I'm going to be in the market for some type of WB system soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speeder Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 LM-1 Plot The cool thing about the LM-1 data viewing software is that you can expand the plot both horizontally and vertically, scroll left and right, and also move the cursor to any point - at which you can select which measurement's scale to display, along with the values of all the measurements. This plot is not expanded - For all the "data freaks" like me out there, you can really nerd out analysing stuff with this. Joel, That's an ingenious solution for mounting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB26powered74zcar Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Rick, how are you getting your RPM values? Also can you clue me in on how to capure a screen shot? Looks like some of my datalogs... pig rich in some areas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted December 30, 2003 Author Share Posted December 30, 2003 why is that so up and down? i was expecting to see a line graph kinda like a dyno graph. Anyone download the realtime read upgrade yet?....anyway you can make an mpeg or something to link to. Im interested in how that looks even if its just at idle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted December 30, 2003 Author Share Posted December 30, 2003 Also to make a screen shot hit the print srceen button.... then open a word doc and hit the paste button. then save it like any other doc or pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speeder Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 The data I recorded for this session was just several free revs with the car in nuetral to test the interface. I had to leave before I could do more. I'll record a run up through the gears and post when I get time to get back to the shop - The tuning on this car is rough to say the least. Hopefully I can show you some befores and afters. The RPM signal is being interfaced to the LM-1 through the optional "RPM Converter" cable which also has connections for four other sensor signals. Unlike my FJO setup, the LM-1 software doesn't play back datalogs like a movie - you have to scroll it manually. This is way better in actual use than it may seem. Those of you that already have the LM-1 can run the LM1 Manager Demo software and sample datalog provided. Click the Datalogger tab, then load, .dif file, Demo-Log.dif, Open, Show. You can then play with the controls to view the sample log file. To get the jpeg I just did a screen capture using a print screen utility, but Stony's method works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted December 30, 2003 Author Share Posted December 30, 2003 speeder dop you have the realtime monitoring update? i have heard it's the poop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speeder Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Stony, do you mean realtime monitoring on the laptop? I need to investigate that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted December 30, 2003 Author Share Posted December 30, 2003 yes. they (klaus) put out an update that enable realtime reading with teh laptop hooked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted December 30, 2003 Author Share Posted December 30, 2003 here's the link http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=84 the zip files is 2 or 3 posts down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speeder Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Got it - Will try it out today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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