zero Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 I've done a search, but most of the mounting questions concern where on the chassis of the car the bar is mounted, my question is whether or not the rear swaybar has an endlink like the front, or is bolted directly down on the control arms, as mine is currently, and was when i bought the car. I believe that there should be something lifting the swaybar up, and I think this could be a cause of the excessive roll i have been experiencing. If there is supposed to be a link of some sort, please point me in the right direction to find one of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Boy, I had to grimace on that one. There absolutely should be a link of some sorts between the control arm and the end of the sway bar. This sounds almost too absurd to believe. A link of various lengths can be bought at almost any speed shop. If worst comes to worst, go to the salvage yard and find a link similar to you front one and use them. But the very first thing I'd do is see if there is some obvious reason why this was done like this, and then see if any permanent damage has been done to the control arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted August 15, 2004 Author Share Posted August 15, 2004 well, i replaced the struts a little while ago, and there is no visible damage other than mild chafing...there is, at least, a bushing keeping it from being direct contact. Thanks alot and I will probably be making a trip to autozone soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted August 15, 2004 Author Share Posted August 15, 2004 oh, what do you think would be a good length for this endlink. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted August 15, 2004 Author Share Posted August 15, 2004 well, i replaced the struts a little while ago, and there is no visible damage other than mild chafing...there is, at least, a bushing keeping it from being direct contact. Thanks alot and I will probably be making a trip to autozone soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 If you've got a stock ride height, with stock swaybar location (280z, front mount type) then I'd say 3-4 inches on the link (I prefer, at it's set ride height, to have the arms perfectly horizontal). So if the car has been lowered, or other things have been changed (gone to a rear-mounted bar, or using ZXT shafts, etc) I'd suggest shorter links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datsunlover Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Hmm.. is it a stock looking bar? Or has some one else (previous owners... grrrr) put this on? I did a stupid thing a few weeks ago and BAM! That drive shaft boot is fubar! Note; 240Z rear bars do NOT work on 280z's! Doh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted August 15, 2004 Author Share Posted August 15, 2004 here are some very large pics of what ive got currently. I fear that if i go with something 4 inches long I will have clearance issues with the halfshafts. Also, given the yellow, i dont think this is a stock bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datsunlover Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! That's the same bar I had on my 280! Dude.. if your car is a 280z, get that thing off of there!!! Trust me, it will do damage! I was going to mount it like that, but decided it would be better OVER the drive shafts. No dice. Like I said, it just doesnt work on a 280. If it's a 240, it should work with small endlinks (2" maybe?).. but it doesnt look like there's enough clearance there so I'm assuming its a 280 you have.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted August 16, 2004 Author Share Posted August 16, 2004 nope 72 240z, it should be fine, im justn ot sure how long the endlinks should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Guessing from the photos (VERY LARGE PHOTOS, 10 minutes on dial-up photos) I'd say you've got about an inch and a half between the bar and the narrow part of the shafts. If this is so, you got some room to play with. The bar's arms will follow the up and down movements of the shafts to a certain extent, so go ahead and close that gap up with a link. I don't mind saying that whoever did that job, did a hatchet job on this set-up. I'll bet the brackets clamped around the upright move, or slide, on the upright judging on how it is mounted around it (per the rust markings on the upright above the bracket. If possible, see if you can shrink the photos down a bit to aid us "dial-up vagrants" some speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted August 16, 2004 Author Share Posted August 16, 2004 sorry about the huge photos, I resized them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Thanks so much for the photo downsize. Now I can see the whole thing without scrolling. So, are the long-shank bolts holding the sway bar onto the upright bracket (which are loose) this way when you examined this for the the first time? With only a single bushing sandwiched between the arm, and the bar, makes me wonder why the bar does not hit the control arm rear edge whenever the suspension compresses. Quite a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest quadcamZ Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 See how your mostache bar goes infront of the two uprights is that menat to be the case on my 260Z with a R200?? mine runs to the rear of the uprights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted August 17, 2004 Author Share Posted August 17, 2004 blueovalz, I am not sure if it is loose there, but once my endlinks arrive, I will make sure, and if they are i'll just weld a bead on top and bottom to keep it in place. Quadcamz, I am pretty sure I have an r180, as it would have come with the car and I dont *think* the previos owner replaced it. though i havent really taken a good look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZROSSA Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Seeing what you have there I wouldnt be surprised if your car handeled better with out a bar at all. Without end links the suspension is really binding. Do you have sudden oversteer problems? The other thing to consider is the actual mounts of the bar on the chassis are thin and flexable. They will break! Throw the bar away. You will have a better ride. Douglas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted August 18, 2004 Author Share Posted August 18, 2004 eh, I would rather get it mounted properly than take it off. As it is my car rolls quite a bit in corners, I am hoping to get rid of some of that. Thanks for the suggestions though. I think I will get a section of box tubing that is the same length as the distance from the frame section to the sway bar mount and weld that to the frame and mount the bar to that. Honestly, I hadn't even taken a look at how the bar was mounted before now, I will take care of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZROSSA Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 That will work zero. Seeing that you are handy with welders and such you could make the end of the bar adjustable that way you would have more tuning options. The easiest way I have seen is to weld a strip steel on the bottom of the sway bar mount that has holes drilled along it for different pick up points. Pretty easy to do. Your end links would then ned to be adjustable to work, but thats not to hard to figure out. Douglas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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