exodus1500 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Will sandblasting rough the surface up enough to spray it on, or should i also go over it with some 80 grit? thanks! Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datsun327 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 sandblasting would do the job just gfine but hitting it with some 80 grit would hurt at all. just giving the por-15 a little more to hold onto. when i did my engine bay all i did was sand down to bear metal, spray on "metal ready", primmer, then paint. so if you sandblast it you should have no problemsl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerrari GTO Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 If you want to spray on rust encapsulator you may want to try the Eastwood product. http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=852&itemType=CATEGORY&iMainCat=688&iSubCat=852 I've used both products and this one sprays on easier and does not require a top coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks280zt Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 I have heard horror stories of POR15 clogging guns, that stuff sets up hard as hell, and read the can WEAR GLOVES, trust me, My hands were black for a week, no fun going to school like that. You would be safe to brush it on if you wanted to, it goes on easy and spreads well, plus it dries hard and you dont see the brush marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 305240 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Go to POR 15's web site and order their new catalog. Lots of new stuff in it. Plus it also tells you how to use it. I've seen a broken console repaired with it and you really have to look to see where it was repaired. I believe it also states you don't have to remove the rust, just paint the stuff over it. I think I would get rid of the big chunks anyway...lol...Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus1500 Posted April 21, 2005 Author Share Posted April 21, 2005 ya, ive heard it spreads well, guess i meant to say "apply" instead of "spray" thanks for the input everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boodlefoof Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 I've sprayed POR before and it goes on very well. I thinned it 8:1 with their POR Solvent. I sprayed over freshly sandblasted items with no additional roughing-up and haven't had any problems. I am very liberal with the metal ready! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two40MuscleZ Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 Jason: Instead of just sandblasting it, have it media blasted with walnut shells. It will remove all of the surface paint and rust, while exposing potential areas of repair. Media blasting does not reduce the metal thickness, and on Z's the metal thickness is a kin to recycled aluminumn cans! Good luck with your project. VAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoogener Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 My apologies for interrupting this thread. I just got new ZeddFindings floors and im gettin ready to put em on. I've been searching forums and read that this POR 15, metal ready, etc needs to be used. I don't know much about replacing floors, so can anyone provide some text or a link to some specific stepbysteps on what to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hat1324 Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 more over, would you fully remove the rust or are you justs por-15ing over it? id like to remove all of mine, for fear of it spreading, but will por stop it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynekarnes Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 you do not have to remove all the rust ... what you want is to remove the flakes, get to a point where you have just surface rust ... commonly known as sweat rust ... the roughness of the sweat rust will allow the POR 15 to adhere just fine ... Paint Over Rust ... is what the POR stands for ... i have used the POR 15 and rust bullet ... both test out by independent labs to be excellent ... here's link to por 15 http://www.stoprust.net/ i prefer the rust bullet ... less prep, less work ... easier to work with ... link to rust bullet http://www.rustbullet.com/?Source=Overture&ovmkt=U9GQ0GJUN19NF5RO5VJGJBDIK4 racerX body man appears to favor zero rust link ... http://www.zerorust.com/index.htm as far as the Zedd Findings floors ... contact them and ask for advise on installation ... i would imagine that you'd weld them in place and then coat them with your choice of rust preventive material ... i think that in the FAQ sections of the links i posted, may answer the question of welding through or applying material to freshly welded panels, probably find the info in the FAQ section .. as far as eastwood's product, rust encapsulator ... and advise on welding, fabbing, rust prevention, ect ... check out their forum at http://forum.eastwood.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4 hopefully you may find what you are looking for at one of those sites good luck, wayne opps almost forgot .. .please use proper safety precautions ... this stuff is more dangerous than we think ... to your lungs, brain, skin, and eyes ... wear long sleeves, nitrile gloves, high quality air filter, and good eye protection. all of that stuff sticks to everything ... be prepared to only use a brush and related painting equipment once ... if you get it on your clothes, it's permanent ... on your skin ( can you say, tip of your nose is itchy ??? ), it takes weeks to wear ( it won't wash off ) off. if it puddles through a hole in the floor, onto the driveway ... it will be a permanent part of the driveway ( the voice of experience ... it's been over 3 years and it's still there ). again, in everything we do ... think safety, your family and friends want to see you healthy and in one piece when you're done working on your projects or just crossing the street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hat1324 Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 for some reason my second thread was deleted.. what about things like a rusty hinge, or little things like that? and wondering if there was somthing like a thinner that I can rub surface rust with... otherwise my grider is saying hello.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynekarnes Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 you won't be able to paint into the pin area of the hinge ... this is most likely where the SQUEAK is coming from ... you wouldn't want any of the paint type rust preventatives in the pin area of the hinge ... it would freeze the hinge ... i would suggest a good cleaning solution ... get the rust and crude out of the pin area ... maybe brake kleen, justice brother's, a penetrating oil ... wd 40 is a cleaner ( not a lubricant ) ... when using these products, protect your paint with good tape and a plastic coated paper of sort ... aluminum foil also works well. once you believe you have the pin area clean, you will need to lubricate it ... teflon based, silicon based, i use white lithium in a spray can ... a friend of mine uses graphite ... lock lubricant ... it has a light oil and fine graphite that acts as a lubricant the oil keeps it from rusting ... if you want to paint the hinges on the car, with a rust preventative ... there is a can of compressed air that one can add their own paint to, making their own can of spray paint ... i think prevail is a name brand of this product . eastwood carries em. you can spray rust bullet without a special thinner ... get yourself a prevail can, add rust bullet ... have a spray can of rust bullet ... clean up the hinges, get as much paint off as you can, give the por15/rust bullet metal to cling to. use vaseline on the hinge pins to mask it from the spray ... use alcohol on a lint free rag to wipe off any excess, properly mask off your doors and fenders, then spray the rust bullet on the hinges ... if you prefer por 15, buy the proper thinner, use the same system, spray the hinges ... with a high quality brush you can probably paint em without leaving brush marks ... almost sounds like i know what i'm talking about, don't it ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hat1324 Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 almost sounds like i know what i'm talking about' date=' don't it ... [/quote'] WERD!! we'll see what happens when i start removing pannels tomarrow.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 73LT1Z Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 My apologies for interrupting this thread. I just got new ZeddFindings floors and im gettin ready to put em on. I've been searching forums and read that this POR 15, metal ready, etc needs to be used. I don't know much about replacing floors, so can anyone provide some text or a link to some specific stepbysteps on what to do? Here you go: http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17235 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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