The Woj Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Hey all, I have been lurking around for awhile gathering information and planning a build for my next Z. I just wanted to see what you all think about this build. My goal is about 250-300 rwhp, which I guess is about 300-350 flywheel hp. My original plan was to do a V8, but it just seems like too much torque in the low end which will cause wheelspin off the line, and lacks the alluring sound of the turbo/bov. Also, I was hoping for a semi-dependable daily driver (ha!). Anyways, this is what I was thinking about with prices and sources: *Turbo Engine + AC - $400 pick-a-part or http://www.ebay.com *Rebuilt T3/T4 Hybrid Turbo - $400 http://www.ebay.com *240sx Throttle Body - $110 http://www.freewebs.com/pallnet/products.htm *3" Mandrel Bent Exhaust - $200 Exhaust Shop *Flowmaster Muffler - $65 http://www.ebay.com *Ignition - $200 http://www.ebay.com or http://www.summitracing.com *Fuel Delivery System - $600 http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/ *Intercooler - $200 http://www.ebay.com *High Pressure Fuel Pump - $99 http://www.arizonazcar.com/inject.html or http://www.ebay.com *280Z Gas Tank - $50 pick-a-part or http://www.ebay.com *High Performance Injectors - $50 pick-a-part or http://www.ebay.com *Blow off Valve - $100 http://www.ebay.com For a grand total of: $2473. I'm sure I was a bit optimistic on my pricing for some parts, but I'm pretty sure others are perhaps overkill (JWT comp?). I had a second list going which was about a thousand more including forged pistons, a performance valve job, and external wastegate. Are these things very important for my goal of 250-300 rwhp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akeizm Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 DONT get an ebay turbo....alot of people have bought off one off there (including myself) and have gotten burnt (mine was stuffed right off the bat). But with that sort of build you should get the power you are looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 260ondubs Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Yeah, i'd agree with your comment on the optimistic prices you've put up. Plus, there are ALWAYS little things that will keep rearing their head to be fixed/updated/replacedn along the way. If you can't do the work, that will boost the cost a lot too. But you will not need to upgrade all the internals for that power goal (if done safely and tuned conservatively). Just don't run it too lean, get a good fuel system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleh Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 dont go to ebay if you want a quality and reliable setup. Search forums for turbos/wastegates/bovs...Dont forget you need misc fittings, oil feed/return lines, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyxius Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 gaskets and bearings if you are rebuilding... $100+ for the good stuff You can get a decent fuel management system for way less than $600 (megasquirt), and there is a nice support base on this forum and msefi.com to help with any problems. I'd say the MOST you can spend on a MS system is $300 if you build it yourself...maybe $400 if someone else builds it and you get the works. I've got about $200 in mine and I didn't build it myself. I'd say go megasquirt and use what you save to get a Garrett turbo from a reputable source. I got mind from http://www.phoenixturbo.com and have been running it over a year @ 12psi and recently at 14psi with no problems. It's a T3/T04E 60 trim with a stage III turbine, 360degree thrust bearing, water cooled center section, and HPC coated turbine housing. IIRC, it was somewhere near $800. You can knock off the 360 bearing, water cooling, and hpc coating and get it for about $600 I think. I'm personally not a fan of JWT. I'm sure his products are nice in quality, but his prices are a little too high for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Woj Posted October 11, 2005 Author Share Posted October 11, 2005 Cool, thanks for the responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNeedForZ Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Ok I am going to be the first to ask. What happened to the white car with V8? And what are you going to do with the grey one? Smog laws suck, I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Woj Posted October 12, 2005 Author Share Posted October 12, 2005 The white one is for sale in classifieds at the moment. The [blue,white,gray,primer,bare-metal] 240z is my goal for this hypothetical engine. It had a numbers matching block installed in it (as seen in picture), but the guy I bought it from (Jacque or Jack was his name, I think - said he's been around Z's forever) kept it as I was planning a v8 swap anyways. By the by, I found this: DATSUN 280z 3.0L, New rebuilt zero miles engine, still in plastic wrapping. All new parts with gaskets. $1,600 in a local advertisement, but the only info I got out of the guy is that it is a 75 280z block, and comes with N57 (N47?) head. Guy says the compression will be a little higher than a stock turbo. Any opinions as to whether this could be built into a turbo engine? I know the details are kind of lacking... Thanks, -Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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