dsommer Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 OK after doing a search and discovering that the Tokico springs aren't going to cut it for the Scarab what are other sugguestions? The problem is the rear tire is rubbing bad (16X7 Pannasport w/225/50/16 tire), so I'm replacing the current set up with Illuminas and springs but obviously the progressive Tokicos won't work. What spring should I run? This is a street car, I don't want a teeth jarring ride, I like soft;) this car will not see the track ever. Sugguestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Have you actually tried the Tokicos yet? I bought a set and was upset when I found out the fronts were progressive and the rears were not, I assumed they were all linear and thats what I wanted. I still have them on my car and have driven around a bit to find out whether I like them. They seem to be OK although I still don't like the idea of the progressives on the front, probably just my bias. Anyway my first set of rims/tires were old Enkie 14X7 Apache BBS look-a-likes running 195/65/14 which fit under the fenders very easily. Now I have a set of ROH 16X7 rims with 205/45/16s on them and 1 1/2" spacers for good backspacing, they don't come anywhere near the fenders, front or back but the outside of the tires are even with the outside edge of the fenders. Not sure if that makes sense, but I would definitely have a rubbing problem if they were to tall. I'm curious as to whether you've actually tried the Tokicos yet because I plan on running same size tire you are in the future, but if they rub then I'll have to rethink that plan. Edit: I have my LT1 set in the JTR position and am running the iron heads just to give you an idea of what my weight distribution is like. Wheelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsommer Posted October 26, 2005 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 Called Sal at MS to shed light on the problem. My Pannasports are the older ones they sold up to 2002 or so which have 0 offset new sets have -6 offset to cure the rubbing issue. Next is the "foot print" of the tire, I'm running Dunlop 9000's which have a 8.1" foot print. After researching tire rack I found that Firestone wide ovals have a foot print of 7.2" which should solve the rubbing issue. When Scarab built the cars they installed their own specific springs along with Tokicko adjustables (optional). My car doesn't have the adjustable shocks, all the suspension is rubber (and worn out) so it makes me wonder what springs are on the car??? I do not have a rubbing issue in the front only the rear so I don't know which approach to take, it needs new struts, that's a given the car "bounces" as far as the springs they may still be good, figure the front doesn't rub and supports the weight of a full iron engine in the Scarab position. Since I have issue with the tires I'm going to launch the Dunlops and get the Firestones, replace all the rubber bushings, and install the Illuminas. I'll keep the original springs in for now if they give me problems I'll switch the rears out with the Tokico's. I have approx. 9 weeks to get this done because the twins are due so I better get on it ASAP. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzzzzzz Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 You could unmount the tires and take the the wheels to a local machine shop with a turret lathe. They could take off that minimal amount of material from the backside of the wheels to get the -6 offset. That is about .25" of metal. Your wheels might be thick enough at the hubs to easily support this. It's cheaper than tires or new wheels. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Should also be able to roll the rear fenders and get more than 6mm clearance out of the fender lip easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsommer Posted October 26, 2005 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 I don't want to bend any metal on this car, it's an original Scarab with nice paint build date of 10/70, so I'm hesitant to do structural changes to it. I never thought about the removal of wheel material, interesting concept. Drivers side tire is pretty gouged from the fender lip cutting into it and the other rear tire got driven on while flat the other day (don't ask just a baaaad day) and get this, both tires are leaking around the bead so I'm thinking screw Dunlops, any of them. I'm running Dunlop AT's on my 02 Ram 4X4 and got 20K miles out of em, never Dunlop a car again, IMO. I love the Kuhmo Ecastas on my 240Z but Tire Rack doesn't spec the tread width so I can't make an informed decision at this point. My Illuminas just showed up but not going to run the springs at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zguitar71 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 You could unmount the tires and take the the wheels to a local machine shop with a turret lathe. They could take off that minimal amount of material from the backside of the wheels to get the -6 offset. That is about .25" of metal. Your wheels might be thick enough at the hubs to easily support this. It's cheaper than tires or new wheels. Just a thought. That would make the wheel have a +6 offset not a -6. It would bring the wheel/tire closer to the spring perch and away from the fender though. Negative offsets push the wheel out and + bring the wheel in. To get the equivelent of a -6 you would need to run a 6m.m. spacer which is what you do not want to do if you are already hitting the fender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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