s3079893 Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 If you want the engine as far back and low as possible there are somethings you will need to consider: - the oil pump will sit directly over the cross member, hight clearance between the pump and the member is only about 10-15mm (you will find the bottom of the bell housing will dictate the height of the engine, idealy you want it flush with the other lowestest points on the chassis). the pipes that run over the crossmember will also have to be relocated. -a rear sump of some discription has to be used. (im cutting my forward sum up and turning it into a raer sump. -the oil filter will have to be relocated as it fouls the cross member/mounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3079893 Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Oh also the clearance i have between the engine mounts and the steering shaft is about 10mm, but i have a right hand drive model, I doubt this will cause you much trouble but it somthing to keep in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest levelhead86 Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 - the oil pump will sit directly over the cross member' date=' hight clearance between the pump and the member is only about 10-15mm (you will find the bottom of the bell housing will dictate the height of the engine, idealy you want it flush with the other lowestest points on the chassis). the pipes that run over the crossmember will also have to be relocated. [/quote'] This part confused me a little... can you clarify? I guess the wording threw me off a little... sorry :-< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3079893 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 The ideal height for your engine/gearbox to sit is as low as possible. you will ultimately want the lowest point of the engine/gearbox (ie, the bottom of the bellhousing) to be level with the lowest point of the car (in the 280zx's case it is the frame rails). This will determine the height that the engine sits in the engine bay. luckely (in my case) i found that at this "ideal" height, the oil pump (which will end up being located directly over the crossmember) will have enough space be albe to fit between the engine and the crossmember. Although this is the case, the pipes that run across the top of the crossmember will have to moved in order for the oil pump to fit. Anything els id be happy to help cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest levelhead86 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Sounds like I should be on my way... let's just hope I don't screw this up too bad. Thanks for all your help though, I should at least get this thing mocked up. I'll keep you posted. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdog Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 the 69 - 73 or 74 ford van 302 is a back sump oil pan you mite try that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3079893 Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 does anyone know if a 351 sump will fit a 302? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMoore56 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 The 351W mains are 3 inches, the 302 mains are 2.2486 inches, according to my Ford Racing book. The 351 just won't fit a 302. The 94 - 96 F150 and F250, with the 351 came with a rear sump pan. I'm not sure what they started, but it probably back in the 70's or 80's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest levelhead86 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 I got an 1980 Ford car motor , according to the numbers on the block*it came out of my friend's F-150 but it musta been swapped in cause the truck was an 1985.*, and it's also got a rear sump oil system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudypoochris Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 the 69 - 73 or 74 ford van 302 is a back sump oil pan you mite try that Can the oil pump be bolted on the back end of the block? (Sorry I havent looked at it) Or does the rear sump oil pan require a special 302 block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubin Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 oil pump is ran by the distributor which is up front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdog Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 i have a 69 ford van that i put a 351 in 20 some odd years ago and all i rember is that the oil pan was backword from normall on the 302 to mis the cromemberso maby the sump pickup is to just to long ago to rembor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMoore56 Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 The rear sump oil pans have a extra long pickup tube that reaches to the back of the pan. The oil pump mounts below the distributor. The 351W oil pump is larger or deeper how ever it is, to clear the longer stroke crankshaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudypoochris Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 Could I just get a rear sump oil pump from autozone as well as this van pan and that would be a wrap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMoore56 Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 If you use the rear sump pan, make sure that you use the long pickup tube and screen that reaches the rear sump on the pan. As for the pump, you can get it at any auto parts store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3079893 Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 Are there any companies that make more compact and shorter oil pumps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMoore56 Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 Its made like that to clear the rotation of the crankshaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3079893 Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 yeah thats true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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