veritech-z Posted September 28, 2006 Author Share Posted September 28, 2006 posted by rontyler: Keep in mind future goals... You may not have sticky tires and an LSD NOW but its on your long term list right? That's a fact...I guess what I'll probably end up doing is putting the motor in N/A first, and then boost it down the road, so a t-5 should be acceptable as a "what will it take to get 'er runnin'?" type part...It was just the only manual tranny really talked about in the JTR book, and I'm not extra savvy about what models of cheverolet came with what manual tranny, and even less so when it comes to the reputations of a given gearbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Hey you're single now. What are you doing with all that extra money not spent on make-up and panties? You buyin, uncle pennybags? Mike= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritech-z Posted September 28, 2006 Author Share Posted September 28, 2006 Single? I must not have gotten the memo...my 1 year anniversary is on sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silicone boy Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 The members of Hybrid Z have cost me big time money, Mostly the Turbomeister and ScottyGNZ. I was perfectly content with building a 383SBC. Then I got the nagging itch to turbo it. My compression is a tad high at 10:1, but I'm not having problems at low boost (about what you plan on running). My huge intercooler probably saves me. If it starts to knock as I turn up the boost, I'll do water/alcohol injection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators RTz Posted September 28, 2006 Administrators Share Posted September 28, 2006 The members of Hybrid Z have cost me big time money... Yup... the old adage is still alive and well..."Speed costs... How fast do you want to spend?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritech-z Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 Yup... the old adage is still alive and well..."Speed costs... How fast do you want to spend?" My answer for that is "No more than I have to." I won't be beating this car to death, so I figured the service life of the T-5 would vary directly with how hard I shift it. I haven't looked, but I imagine one of those would be much easier to come by in a pick-n-pull than a t-56, and around here a tranny from one of those yards is less than $50 if you have a core, regardless of type. So if there is something stronger I could get in the salvage yard, that's what I'll look for. If i had my druthers I'd be using one of these: http://www.lencoracing.com/st12.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators RTz Posted September 29, 2006 Administrators Share Posted September 29, 2006 I haven't looked, but I imagine one of those would be much easier to come by in a pick-n-pull than a t-56, and around here a tranny from one of those yards is less than $50 if you have a core, regardless of type. If you can get a WC T5 for $50 I'll pay you for your time to get me one... ...and a non-WC is worth a hill of beans in this application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Oops... sorry... I confused your marital status with deja's. HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!! Single? I must not have gotten the memo...my 1 year anniversary is on sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silicone boy Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I know this may not be a consideration, but I have a WC T5 for a Shelby Cobra kit car I'm building to sell and finance my other car projects-I'm gonna sell it to some dude in a middle age crisis. I plan on driving it around a ritzy part of town with a blond babe next to me. It'll sell itself. Anyway, I digress. My point is that the WC T5 is a lot lighter than a T56. I always brace myself for an aching back when I lift it, only to be surprised by its light weight. The motor it's going behind is a Roush Racing 351 making 400 crank hp, so the T5 is no slouch. It's a good tranny. Will it last behind such power? I don't know. Some sugar daddy's gonna find out the answer to that when his Cobra drops a tranny while cruising with some 20 year old hottie. I had a vivid and sick imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo Meister Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 The members of Hybrid Z have cost me big time money, Mostly the Turbomeister and ScottyGNZ. I'm not apologizing for helping to bring you over to the DARK SIDE....heh heh. Got any action pics or video of that beast???? Hanns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritech-z Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 Is the world class t-5 strictly aftermarket, or is that who bought the t-5 after borg warner was done with it? How would I be able to tell the difference just by looking? If OEM, what year and model would have been equipped with such a thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators RTz Posted September 29, 2006 Administrators Share Posted September 29, 2006 Is the world class t-5 strictly aftermarket, or is that who bought the t-5 after borg warner was done with it? How would I be able to tell the difference just by looking? If OEM, what year and model would have been equipped with such a thing? Some factory cars came with them. Google it... that'ell keep you busy for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I know this may not be a consideration, but I have a WC T5 for a Shelby Cobra kit car I'm building to sell and finance my other car projects-I'm gonna sell it to some dude in a middle age crisis. I plan on driving it around a ritzy part of town with a blond babe next to me. It'll sell itself. Anyway, I digress. My point is that the WC T5 is a lot lighter than a T56. I always brace myself for an aching back when I lift it, only to be surprised by its light weight. The motor it's going behind is a Roush Racing 351 making 400 crank hp, so the T5 is no slouch. It's a good tranny. Will it last behind such power? I don't know. Some sugar daddy's gonna find out the answer to that when his Cobra drops a tranny while cruising with some 20 year old hottie. I had a vivid and sick imagination. Nope... just in tune with reality. And BTW... what's wrong with dirty old men running around with 20-year-old babes. If they can afford the sugar daddy goodies and the Viagra, MORE POWER TO THEM:mrgreen: Frankly, I'M ENVIOUS!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silicone boy Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I'm not apologizing for helping to bring you over to the DARK SIDE....heh heh. Got any action pics or video of that beast???? Hanns The dark Sith master speaks. .....your humble servant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silicone boy Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Nope... just in tune with reality. And BTW... what's wrong with dirty old men running around with 20-year-old babes. If they can afford the sugar daddy goodies and the Viagra, MORE POWER TO THEM:mrgreen: Frankly, I'M ENVIOUS!! What's wrong with dirty old men running around with young babes? I'll tell you what's wrong. THE WIFE SAYS I DON'T GET TO BE ONE OF THEM ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritech-z Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 Are most of you guys that are using the JTR mount setup just buying them from JTR, or is anyone having them cut on their own? Is it appreciably cheaper to make them yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritech-z Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 here's some t-5 info, if anybody else was interested: http://www.5speeds.com/t5/ So far it seems like the Ford Mustang t-5's are stronger, and they got the world class versions before gm did. I'm still looking to see if either the guts of such tranny are compatible to be swapped into a GM case, or if the gearbox could just unbolt and be put onto a camaro bellhousing. As a piece of trivia, the T-5 on the turbo 280zx is supposedly a ford bolt pattern where it adapts to the bellhousing. *edit* found a flathead Ford page that desribes using a 4 cylinder S-10 gearbox to upgrade to a t-5, since the 4/6 cylinder GM trannies used the ford style bellhousing to main body bolt pattern. The inverse of that should then hold true: If I get a ford t-5 gearbox from say a 5.0 mustang and bolt it to a 4/6 cylinder bellhousing, I should get a decent strength gearbox on a chevy bellhousing. That assumes a few variables: the 4/6 cylinder bellhousing will bolt to a 350, and said bellousing/tranny combo will have the right length input shaft to operate the clutch correctly... The T-5s used behind the four cylinder GM engines used the 'Ford' main case-to-bell housing bolt pattern. The GM V6 (thru the 1992 model year) and V8 versions used the GM trans-to-bell bolt pattern. The Chevy/GM 4 cylinder and V6 trans used a 1" diameter x 14 spline input shaft, while all Ford T5s used a 1-1/16" diameter x 10 spline input shaft. GM 2WD T-5s used a 27 spline output shaft; Ford used a 28 spline output http://www.flatheadv8.org/t5-swap.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 The mustang T-5s are known for exploding third gear from a couple articles I read a while back in grassroots motorsports. Somehow I completely missed this thread. I guess I was at college trying to get an education. Well I am guessing that your closet of Z stuff will be a little more cluttered now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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