MonkeyKnifeFighter Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 *EDIT* So this is a tension / control rod: Well, I think I found why my car pulls strongly to the driver's side when braking: This driver's side part was sheered in two. Where can I get one? I'm new at this so I apologize if this is an elementary question but I'd sure appreciate some help. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Yeah, that'd be the reason. Those look like polyurethane bushings. Whoda thunk it? http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=87758 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyKnifeFighter Posted June 6, 2007 Author Share Posted June 6, 2007 Yeah, that'd be the reason. Those look like polyurethane bushings. Whoda thunk it? http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=87758 Thank you for the help. I've edited my initial post. I've glanced through the linked thread and there doesn't seem to be an easy fix for ZX's except that the thread is a few years old. I'll go through the thread in more detail and do some searching now that I know key words but any help in this thread would still be appreciated. Oh, I should mention that my car is lowered 1". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyKnifeFighter Posted June 6, 2007 Author Share Posted June 6, 2007 Jon, I'm going to go with a stock rod for now as I don't have the tools or knowhow (yet) to make an adjustable rod. Am I correct in that I should go with poly bushings in the front (closest to the wheel) and rubber bushings in the back? If so, where can I find rubber bushings that will fit my ZX? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbesheer Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Try this set http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=PTP%2D14%2D2003%2DBL&N=700+4294907666+4294906794+4294925044+4294925130+4294839050+4294865789+115&autoview=sku It's a full set but I don't know if it has everything you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyKnifeFighter Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 Try this set http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=PTP%2D14%2D2003%2DBL&N=700+4294907666+4294906794+4294925044+4294925130+4294839050+4294865789+115&autoview=sku It's a full set but I don't know if it has everything you need. Thanks but it looks like those are just bushings. I appreciate it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbesheer Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 aren't you looking for bushings ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyKnifeFighter Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 aren't you looking for bushings ? Actually I was looking for the rod & I just ordered one from Z Specialties. I decided to go with a set of rubber bushings as well. I'll leave the polyurethane for the rest of the bushings. Now I'll try to find time to go to a junk yard and get a rod for the other side. Thanks everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 You might consider running the G Machine TC kit in the front and the rubber bushing in the rear. Having a less squishy pivot in front really does improve the feel under braking. The kit for the early Z fits the ZX, just mount it on the front of the TC bucket so that it looks kinda backwards from the way it gets installed on the early Z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators BRAAP Posted June 7, 2007 Administrators Share Posted June 7, 2007 If you are going to use the Poly-Rubber combination, you want the poly bushing on the front and the rubber bushing on the back, regardless of which direction the T/C rod is facing, i.e. rearward as on the S-30 or forward as on the S-130, Z-31, Z-32, PL-510, etc. (front being the furthest forward, towards the front of the car, rear being furthest back or towards the rear of the car). On the early S-30 cars, the T/C rod is in compression for 99% of its life as the wheel is being pushed against it, especially under hard braking. On the S-130, (aka 280-ZX), the T/C rod is in tension so it is always being “pulled” on, especially under hard braking. So placing the poly bushing on the forward side in either instance, the poly bushing is doing its job of limiting wheel movement, limiting caster change etc, yet the rubber bushing on the opposite side is allowing the T/C rod to pivot and articulate while keeping the T/C rod attached the car and not overstressing the T/C rod to failure. The rubber side of the T/C rod will only really be working while braking in reverse. Not really a situation that needs to keep suspension movements to race car standards, rubber is more than adequate in that situation. This Poly-Rubber arrangement is not ideal, but MUCH better from a performance stand point AND safer than the Poly-Poly arrangement. Hiem joints/Spherical rod ends are a far superior suspension pivot on many levels that only adds a little more harshness. For the weekend warrior that just drives at 7 tenths, the Poly-Rubber T/C bushing combo is more than adequate. For the hard core enthusiast and racer, Spherical bearings. Hope that helps, Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HizAndHerz Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 There's lots more discussion here: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=87758 I did what Carrman suggested, but only to the rear bushing: I drilled six 5/16" holes around the perimeter of the center mounting hole. These should allow the T/C rod to pivot more easily and still offer the advantage of the stiffer bushing when braking and/or cornering. I think its a good compromise for a street car. I have no data to back that up other than my Energy Suspension bushings haven't rotted like the rubber ones do and I haven't broken a T/C rod... yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyKnifeFighter Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 I'll be running the poly/rubber combo but I'm considering putting a stock suspension back on her. The PO lowered her 1" and put on a Tokico kit. The ride is terrible. Yes, it's great fun around certain corners and on freeway on-ramps, but this is my daily driver and some bumps are hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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