Guest soulfly454 Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 ok so is a harsh ride all that sectioning takes care ur cuz right now at age 16 thats the lest of my worries i mean i hear of some guys saying that 225 250 springs are stiff and i was thinkin about goin 300rear 275 front so im planinn on it ridin ruff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotfitz Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Let me restate what I said. With very little suspension travel you risk bending control arms, ovaling pivot points and blowing strut inserts. By sectioning your strut tubes you can get this travel back and lower your Z at the same time. If your to low though, then other things need to be addressed. Search for caster camber plates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest soulfly454 Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 ok thnaks for clearing it up for me i thought it seemed like alot of work just for a better ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 OUCH!!! Soul Fly with 275/300 "spring rates" you will no doubt survive past your 18th birthday but you will probably not be able to produce any "offspring" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest soulfly454 Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 loli know what u mean but im tryin to make my z handle as good as possible which im sure some people will say is a waste of time with my scarrab conversion but am i right or wrong in thinking that will help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 225/250 will make it handle around corners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl327 Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 its not a waste of time making a scarab handle, they handle well, i had one for 3 years and 30k worth of DAILY DRIVING, so i know i know what im talking about, and yes i think in a full Autox condition with a jtr z with equal or more hp and equal suspension and a equal to or better driver, the jtr car will have the advantage, not the win, but the advantage. it has NEVER been proven that the scarab cars have had a handling problem, and I can tell you for sure that they dont, and mine didnt have any kind of overheating problem either, with a flexalite engine driven fan and a backup electric fan that i never used, and it ran 13s all day with a tired four barrel 327 with cast manifolds and a four speed, and I was the KING OF IMPORT AND STREET RACING IN GENERAL for three years and more than one hundred seperate incidents with anyone that would dare play with fire. heres what i ran suspension wise energy suspension bushings 1" front sway bar 3/4 rear sway bar(later removed for traction) adjustable coilovers in rear with eibach springs 275lb springs in the front, yes overkill, every bump made me kringe, but i could carve corners like a rat wearing sneakers ( i got that from greg kring), i had on throttle oversteer at my every wish, and i loved every moment of it, until i bent the frame from the tc rods to the floor, everything bent, hell yeah that fairlady 327 served me well and never saw a corner it didnt like, dont let people convince you that it wont handle, the straight six is not centered in the chassis either, and it corners well, now get back under it! I personally cant wait until the day I can say my turbo car will spank Fairlady 327, man oh man sometimes i miss that raw grunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 The 'secret' to a good ride is imho well tuned shocks. Up to 300lb springs on a stock weight car can still deliver a reasonable ride, if the shocks are compatible. Mine has 250 front/300 rear and is a pleasure to drive on reasonable roads. Much more than that I suspect will result in excessive body flex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 "Compatiable Shocks" is correct for heavy springs but the solution begins to get very expensive. Question for 260 DET....Richard..sincev you are from Austraila what brand and model # for those "compatiable" strut cartridges for your 250/300 # coilovers. What I have heard is that Tokico Illuminas were about the only dampers still "affordable" to control that much spring weight. We are looking at $150.00 a piece for Illuminas and that is a lot of lunch mon$ey for our young friend Fly Yellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted January 11, 2003 Share Posted January 11, 2003 Larry, this is not going to be of much help to our US friends but the inserts are Koni Yellows (sports). The selection of the model/valving was left to the suspension guy who originally did the work, although since then the spring rates have been increased. At the time he mentioned Holden Commodore (see what I mean) inserts or valving, or both. I'd guess that if inserts made for a light car like a VW Golf were used they would have to be revalved up. Cost is a problem for most of us but I'd guess that a lot of us have learnt from experience that trying to save money in some areas can eventually be a wasteful exercise if the work has to be redone later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted January 11, 2003 Share Posted January 11, 2003 Larry, this is not going to be of much help to our US friends but the inserts are Koni Yellows (sports). The selection of the model/valving was left to the suspension guy who originally did the work, although since then the spring rates have been increased. At the time he mentioned Holden Commodore (see what I mean) inserts or valving, or both. I'd guess that if inserts made for a light car like a VW Golf were used they would have to be revalved up. Cost is a problem for most of us but I'd guess that a lot of us have learnt from experience that trying to save money in some areas can eventually be a wasteful exercise if the work has to be redone later. If I had unlimited funds there would be a set of those you beaut ultimate shocks with a the separate reservoirs under my car. Penske make those? there is at least one other US brand as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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