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That message just got me thinking...........

non turbo z32 has a r200 viscous lsd with a 4.08 ratio in a z32 style case. Why not take a gearset from one of those and put it on a r200 clutch lsd in a z31 style case so it bolts right into a s30? I would assume that r200 lsd is r200 lsd, regardless of which case it's in. ie. 12mm ring gear bolts. Does the z32 style case use the same length pinion as a z31 style case? If so, this should work and leave you with a 4.08 clutch r200 in a z31 case, which would be very nice.

 

Also, I just aquired a clutch lsd assembly with a 3.7 gearset and a finned cover. Anyone ever put together a r200 and had good luck as far as reliability and gear life goes? Once I get my lsd in I'll have a case with good bearings and want to attempt to assemble the parts into a whole r200 clutch lsd in a z31 case.

 

And anyone got one of those quaffie torsen diff assemblies? If so, comments?

 

 

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SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYIMG IS IF YOU HAVE A R200 VISCIOUS IS THAT THE R200 OPEN DIFFERENTIAL SHAFTS HAVE A DIFFERENT SPLINE THAN THE VISCIOUS DOES. YES I AM GETTING MYSELF CONFUSED.

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sorry for such the large type i am at work, shhh, don't tell anyone and we use the capitals for everything. anyone have an answer to the question though.

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Guys I think 76 280 Speeder made a simple error in typing, nothing more... Was it really necessary to beat up on him? I don't think any of us walk on water around here, unless something special is happening in Alabama that I'm not aware of......

 

Mike

 

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Mike, it's sort of a thing that's built up - for me at least. I see all caps in a few messages but try to hold my tongue, it's pretty hard after awhile smile.gif It hurts my eyes and in "netspeak" it's seen as shouting. Granted, not everyone is an old hand at writing on the 'net or had experience with BBS type forums so I try not to be nasty when I comment on it. And yes, I know I'm guilty of lousy typing which is also hard to read sometimes - 30wpm or so with just two fingers leads to errors I'm afraid. I've also lost some of my old "edge" in speeling frown.gif

 

So, has anyone looked at the viscous gear sets to see what bolts they use? I suppose since it now seems I've got an R200 open diff in the garage I ought to look and see what bolts it uses just for kicks.

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first, i just wanted to say sorry for the large type i didn't know that i was annoying anyone. when i am at home i use regular type and when i am at work i have to use large type for the old farts here that can't see. i will try to do better about taking the caps lock off when i type in a message.

 

second, the viscious unit is what i was trying to see if i could bolt it into a r200 case and retain my 3.54 gear instead of using a 4. something gear. i haven't been able to test the theory yet but if anyone has already tried it then give me a heads up. later, chris

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Everyone,

I may be starting rumors here but I think the diff's in the 280zx turbo's had 12mm bolts. If this is true than the gears from these could be used. I have one with the 3.54 ratio and i've seen plenty at our local pull-a-parts. I also have heard that the 200sx turbo used 12mm bolts & the had 4.11 gears.

Any body know if this is true?

Glenn

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Speeder - if you're just tyring to keep from getting a 4 series gear go for the clutch LSD from the 87.5-89 turbo 300ZX - these are ALL 3.7's. The 200SX cars with "mag wheels" are supposedly the ones with LSDs BTW. Zcar.com had a couple of good threads on it last I looked in their archives smile.gif

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Well to anyone trying to figure this whole thing out... I have the 3:7 R200 and would GLADLY trade for an R200 LSD with 4:?? Gears in it. It would make my CAM/T56 issue go away.

 

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I have looked into this alleged clutch lsd in some 200sx cars - they don't exist. The ONLY place to get the OE r200 flat plate clutch lsd is in 87-89 300zx turbos made after 4/87. And they're all 3.7 ratios.

 

Someone on z31.com said they got a 4.11 from a 200sx turbo and it was a LSD. I don't know why he thinks it is, perhaps because he leaves 2 black marks instead of 1? At any rate, such a beast was never made.

 

 

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I was going in favor of trying to get the viscious unit to work with the 3.54 gears instead of using the clutch type with 3.7 gears which is perfectly fine gear ratio also because i have heard that it is hard to get the clutches to rebuild the rear end. the viscious unit you shouldn't have anything to rebuild if i am thinking correctly.

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The viscous r200 is 3.7 as well. Unless you're talking about the viscous LSDs in the z32 style case, which are 3.08 and 4.xx and are difficult to install.

The clutches are readily available, you can order them from any nissan dealer, as you can all other clutch parts.

 

 

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well i guess with all that info then i will go with the clutch lsd and just rebuild the clutch pack. the hard part here is just trying to find a 87-89 r200 lsd.

here is another question, will the 3.08 gear set from the z32 viscious case fit directly into a z31 r200 clutch lsd?

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No. The 3.08 in z32 turbos is a r230, not a r200.

I think the pinions are different as well, but I'm not sure.

I have a spare clutch lsd and a spare clutch LSD assembly(3.7 gearset, clutch assembly, and finned cover) that might be procurable for the right price, but I'm not exactly dying to sell either.

 

 

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