Nismo280zEd Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Just wanted to make sure I'm doing this correctly since I can't find a whole lot of people running what I am. As mentioned before running OEM beru porsche coil packs. (this is a 911 Porsche btw) We are planning on running wasted spark with the COP. http://www.msextra.com/manuals/MS_Extra_Ignition_Hardware_Manual.htm#2coils Via the website we have purchased 6 drivers and we have purchased the new BIP drivers from DIYautotune. the website said you can not run 2 coils off one driver, so we have 6 drivers and 6 cop. I'm going to radio shack today and buying 660ohm resistors among other things for a side project, just wanted to make sure I'm doing this correctly since we are trying to run wasted spark (IE two coils firing at once) or since we already have 6 drivers am I better off trying to do sequential? Running MSnSE off the V3 board (MS 1 not MS2) I think code version 029? I loaded up the code late last year I believe. We are using a 36:1 trigger wheel that was actually machined into the damper that came with it's own sensor. Looking forward to firing this thing up next weekend. Thanks for looking, -Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad-ManQ45 Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 If you are going to do barometric correction via the mapdaddy sensor or adding a second sensor, your option of sequential spark is moot as bara shares one or two outputs that the extra spark does. Also, sequential would need a cam signal - not just the 36-1 signal machined on your dampner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario_82_ZXT Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 ^^ Can't you run the LED outputs to drive them? Also, it's a little late now, but there's a bunch of aftermarket motorcycle coils that have 1 input and 2 spark outputs. Has anyone used something like that? Mario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad-ManQ45 Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Mario - the motorcycle coils you'r3ee talking about would still be wasted spark... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildky Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I've not messed with MS2 but MS1 only supports up to 4 coil drivers so it would have to be wated spark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobythevan Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 but MS1 only supports up to 4 coil drivers I don't think that is true. If you look at 029y4 or 029y5 you can select spark outputs A,B,C,D,E and F. So MSI extra looks like it supports up to 6 coil drivers. Of course you still have to add all the supporting hardware circuitry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo280zEd Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 so i guess i'm in uncharted waters here. I'll just go by what the MsnSE manual recomends and figure it out from there I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad-ManQ45 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Nismo: Nothing at all uncharted - simply use spark A,B & C outputs according to the directions and set up for wasted spark. You need to have a cam signal to use all 6 outputs in sequential mode - your 36-1 wheel isn't enough... See - nothing to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo280zEd Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 Nismo: Nothing at all uncharted - simply use spark A,B & C outputs according to the directions and set up for wasted spark. You need to have a cam signal to use all 6 outputs in sequential mode - your 36-1 wheel isn't enough... See - nothing to it! lol thanks man... we'll see how easy it is this weekend lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cramer Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 The 029v and 029y4 codes both have the ability to run six cylinder sequential COP with baro correction, but this would need a cam sensor as well. With just a crank sensor, it sounds like you're on the right track for how to wire it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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