StrokinIT Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Hey guys, I'm planning on building up a SBC for my Z this winter and I'm trying to get it all planned out ahead of time before I dive into anything. I feel that I know a decent amount about engines, but I'm by no means an expert and this will be my first engine build, actually my first time really doing anything to any sort of engine. Yes I realize this is quite ambitious but if your gonna start somewhere why not start with something practical. I'm also taking an engines course in college right now so by the time I start the build I'll have some more knowledge. Anyways, before I bore you all to death, I'll get to the point. In the end I'm interested in making between 300-350 hp, maybe more if I go with the 383 but definately keeping it under 400. That being said, my brother has a block and crank set up for a 383 that he got from his friend. He said I could have it for about $200, but I've been looking on craigslist for more complete motors so I wouldn't have to buy as many parts. 1. If a motor needs to be rebuilt, do I necessarily have to replace all the parts? Or can a motor just be put back together with the same parts? 2. Would it just be cheaper to start with my brothers 383 block and build that up than to start with some guys old engine that I'd need to take apart and rebuild completely? I do understand that you don't want to go towards the cheap side on an engine build and if parts need to be replaced I will replace them. The thing I'm unsure about is what necessarily needs to be replaced. I appreciate your input and for putting up with my somewhat noob-ish questions. Thanks, Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn83zxt Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 If you have a little bit of extra money, why don't you use you brothers block to build up, and find a running engine for cheap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsicard Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 StrokinIT: You will get what you pay for. Strongly suggest buying a new 383 short block then adding good aluminum heads, performance camshaft and performance intake manifold. Then you would really have something and not go through the hassle of buying all the many individual new parts and make it relatively simple to assemble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokinIT Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 So I just went on to summit racing to price out some parts. What do you folks think about what I picked? Good stuff or should I be looking for something different? Heads- http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-60909/ Cam- http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-CL12-242-2/ Intake- http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-2101/ Carb- http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-1406/ Thanks for the help, Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rucus01 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 So I just went on to summit racing to price out some parts. What do you folks think about what I picked? Good stuff or should I be looking for something different? Heads- http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-60909/ Cam- http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-CL12-242-2/ Intake- http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-2101/ Carb- http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-1406/ Thanks for the help, Josh You are going to need a transmission also. And with that cam you will need an above stock stall. Dont forget fuel pump, distributor, gaskets, headers and exahust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokinIT Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 i already have a t5 transmission in good shape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 The most important part of any project is to: 1) Establish a realistic budget; 2) Establish a realistic timeframe. Then, start working on the details. jt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlebmaster Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 You are going to need a transmission also. And with that cam you will need an above stock stall. Dont forget fuel pump, distributor, gaskets, headers and exahust. You will also need an adapter kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokinIT Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 I plan on keeping the engine build itself under $3,000. I also want to build it over my winter break, so basically during the month of January. And I understand I'll need more parts than the parts I linked to before, but since those parts are generally the more important ones to get right to make the sort of power that your looking for that's why I asked for opinions on them. I think the 600cfm carb might not be up to the task of making 350+ hp from a 383. Do you think a 750cfm will flow enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokinIT Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 Maybe the title of the post is a little misleading, I guess the main focus I'm going for is the actual building of the motor itself and not so much on things such as installation or exhaust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 You can check out Ryan's stroker page. Lots of dyno'd combo's there, you can get an idea of what it will take to meet your goals. http://ryanscarpage.50megs.com/combos1.html jt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyro Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Getting the engine together is by far the easiest part of any engine swap. Sounds like you are tripping on peddles on the way to climb a mountain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokinIT Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 Wow, jt1, that was exactly what i was looking for. thanks so much for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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