jeromio Posted June 17, 2002 Share Posted June 17, 2002 So, I gots that FBody tank all installed - except for the filler (minor detail ). Should I be looking for fluoro-silicon lined, poly, teflon or just rubber....? I gotta have something S shaped. It's pretty tight in there, so I'm thinking it's gonna require some preformed elbows ($$$). Anyone have any ideas, sources, comments? I mightconsider sealing up the old filler and creating a new one that's a straight shot to the tank. It would need to be about 6-8 inches further forward. But I really shouldn't consider that since I need to get this project on the road. I am going to end up adapting something for the filler since the stock filler is like 3 inches wide and the camaro tank inlet is more like 1 inch ID. Also, I know on my truck the S-shaped filler hose creates problems with filling the tank - nozzle has to be just so or else fuel backs up. Ugh, nothing can be simple. Tank fits nicely though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denny411 Posted June 17, 2002 Share Posted June 17, 2002 you will need a neoprene hose. it is specifically made to resist gasoline/petroleum. I would scroung around some salvage yards to see if you can`t come up with some pieces to splice and get your desired diameters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted June 17, 2002 Share Posted June 17, 2002 I've seen shops on the net that sell clear fuel-safe hoses, forgot where though...DOH! Owen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim240z Posted June 17, 2002 Share Posted June 17, 2002 Guys... Don't cheap out when it comes to fuel.... Pay a little now or a lot later....can you say Zeebeekeww? Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Drewz Posted June 17, 2002 Share Posted June 17, 2002 TIm that is too funny man. Ratbert if you carhappens to burn to the ground and it is the fault of that hose it will probably void your insurance. I am not bashing you I just would hate to see a Z burn. All I used was some exhaust tubing , heavy wall, and a short piece of hose from a wrecker that was in V good shape as Mike said. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted June 17, 2002 Share Posted June 17, 2002 Exactly, so get the hose that was made for it. I was thinking of exhaust tubing as well, but how long will that stand up to rust, etc? Owen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim240z Posted June 18, 2002 Share Posted June 18, 2002 Just get some aluminum tubing. No rust and much lighter. If you want to get fancy have it bent to the correct shape and weld on a cap flange, maybe something from a radiator would work. Then you will only have one 'rubber' joint. Use some hylemar on the rubber/aluminum mating surfaces to avoid any seepage (don't use silicon, gasoline breaks it down). Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Drewz Posted June 18, 2002 Share Posted June 18, 2002 My tubing was aluminized tubing from Midas and still looks new 3 1/2 years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeromio Posted June 18, 2002 Author Share Posted June 18, 2002 I did consider using hard tubing (steel or plastic) and then a section of neoprene or poly (available at HomeDepot). The bendy parts definately cannot be regular tubing cuz it's tight turns and the tubing would just kink. That fluoro silicon stuff is way out expensive. Hrm. My list of unexpected minor little issues (fill hose, ujoint, pcm location) is growing steadily.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted June 18, 2002 Share Posted June 18, 2002 I have used standard radiator hose before. I can hear it now: "It's not made to withstand gasoline!" True, but it's not like it's immersed in fuel 24/7. When does it see fuel? Only during fill-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike kZ Posted June 18, 2002 Share Posted June 18, 2002 Most tanks fill at mid point up to just below the top of the tank. So when you fill up, the gas is all the way up the fill tube. Untill you use up that gas, yes the rubber hose is in gas 24/7, so you don't want to use a rad hose. Did you try using the same diameter exhaust pipe bent the way you need it? Then just use a short piece of fuel type rubber to connect it to the tank. When I moved my tank to the center of the rear, I used a small piece of exhaust pipe to fill the gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted June 18, 2002 Share Posted June 18, 2002 You might try a boat supply store for bulk fuel filler hose. Boats sometimes have a long hose from filler to tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scca Posted June 18, 2002 Share Posted June 18, 2002 any race shop will have the proper line.. large stuff is about $10 a foot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim240z Posted June 18, 2002 Share Posted June 18, 2002 Try McMaster Carr too. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted June 18, 2002 Share Posted June 18, 2002 Originally posted by Drewz:Ratbert if you carhappens to burn to the ground and it is the fault of that hose it will probably void your insurance. I am not bashing you I just would hate to see a Z burn. Yeah, I guess I should have put this in proper context... It was on an old '67 Ford truck and the filler neck on the tank was such that the hose indeed was not immersed in fuel, even when the tank was full, only when filling. I am not a Z car person (yet - actually I am seriously contemplating a SBC swap into a 810 and was directed here for advice) and don't know how the tank lays out. I once lost a Shelby GLH clone due to a fuel leak at the engine and don't take this stuff lightly as my post might have indicated. Please forgive me for my error! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 73TPIZ Posted June 19, 2002 Share Posted June 19, 2002 I'm not sure which year tank you're using (LT1,LS1) but here's what i did. I removed the spare tire well, took a '97 Z28 tank and installed it backwards (filler on pass side), cut neck off ~4" from tank, bent accordian piece left on tank a little w/ the hot wrench, welded a 2" exhaust elbow at a slight angle to get it thru the factory hole in hatch floor, bought some 2" clear (PVC?) hose from Lowe's (has reinforcing string imbedded in it,thick and stiff, but ok) to attach to filler. On top I took the tank filler pipe (cut off Z28 tank)and cut it ~2" down from factory GM snout and welded it inside my datsun filler flange (fit perfectly). To mount the tank I drilled off (spot welds) the strap mounting brackets(rear) and moved them over to line up w/tank and welded them back. Welded 3/4" tubing front to rear between crossmembers,welded 1/8" plate hanging down from the front of each one and cut notches in them to accept the factory datsun strapping bolts (extended {sectioned} one strap ~6" by welding in strapping from hardware store).I don't know how well this fills yet but I must say that it looks almost factory. even used the factory 3 screw flange w/ cut floormat to seal where filler hose goes thru floor. Sorry so long but hope this helps. May get a camera later and try to document some of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 73TPIZ Posted June 19, 2002 Share Posted June 19, 2002 Jeromio, forgot to mention that I have visited your website several times and your project looks awesome. Great info on the upgrades (brakes, etc.) Good luck with getting it on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted October 3, 2003 Share Posted October 3, 2003 Here's one place for real fuel safe hose. http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/fsafe8b.htm So what are people doing to stop fuel from staying in the hose 24-7? I'm worried about fuel creeping up towards the filler opening on hard turns or whatever, and I simply want it to stay in the tank not the hose. How about dry break? http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/fsafe8.htm Owen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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