blackice280zxt Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I have searched and came to a bunch of random stuff that had nothing to do with my question. I was wondering if there is a difference in the 280zx 2 seater fly wheel and the 2+2 flywheel. I got a new clutch for free and it is for a 2+2 and was wanting to put it in a car I have torn apart right now. Before I open the package and try it on, I would like to know. Thanks in advance If there is a difference any one in a state bordering KY have a flywheel they want to sell? There is one in a junkyard near me but they are ass holes and I dont want to give my money to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger.svoboda Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 The 2+2 flywheel and the turbo flywheel have a 240mm friction area whereas the n/a cars had a 225 mm friction area. The flywheels are identical as to boltiing and teeth for the starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackice280zxt Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 So my clutch wont work its to big. Thank you roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rolling Parts Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 T...The flywheels are identical as to boltiing and teeth for the starter. Not quite. The bolt patterns are quite different for the clutch (pressure plate). You could use a free 225mm clutch disk on a 240mm flywheel (just not the other way around). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackice280zxt Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 Does any one have a 2+2 or turbo flywheel they want to sell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woldson Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Post it in the wanted section. I lightened and balanced a 240mm and put it on my 83na. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackice280zxt Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 Post it in the wanted section. I lightened and balanced a 240mm and put it on my 83na. Already did pugmaster lol http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=155725 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rolling Parts Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 There differences beyond the flywheel. You better also buy the correct length throwout sleeve for that taller "turbo" clutch assembly. Otherwise you'll do all that work and the clutch won't engage if you don't get the shorter 48mm one... EDIT: Wow, free clutches sure can cost a lot, LOL. And: "search! And let me know what you come up with" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackice280zxt Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 there differences beyond the flywheel. You better also buy the correct length throwout sleeve for that taller "turbo" clutch assembly. Otherwise you'll do all that work and the clutch won't engage if you don't get the shorter 48mm one... Edit: Wow, free clutches sure can cost a lot, lol. And: "search! And let me know what you come up with" lmao the bearing is the same its the collar that that is different. I need the smaller one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger.svoboda Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 I didn't make it clear when I said the bolting is the same I meant to say it will bolt to the engine. pressure plate probably different as stated above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woldson Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 There differences beyond the flywheel. You better also buy the correct length throwout sleeve for that taller "turbo" clutch assembly. Otherwise you'll do all that work and the clutch won't engage if you don't get the shorter 48mm one... EDIT: Wow, free clutches sure can cost a lot, LOL. And: "search! And let me know what you come up with" I always assume that "one", replaces the thowout bearing when doing a clutch. My beck arnly clutch assembly was a direct bolt on. No problems to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rolling Parts Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 I always assume that "one", replaces the thowout bearing when doing a clutch. That's not what I said (because all bearings are identical). That's why I use the word SLEEVE and not the word BEARING. You have to match the throwout SLEEVE to the clutch assembly you use. You have to match the clutch assembly to the FLYWHEEL that you you use. The details are important to avoid the "oh crap" of having to re-pull a transmission... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackice280zxt Posted November 5, 2009 Author Share Posted November 5, 2009 That's not what I said (because all bearings are identical).That's why I use the word SLEEVE and not the word BEARING. You have to match the throwout SLEEVE to the clutch assembly you use. You have to match the clutch assembly to the FLYWHEEL that you you use. The details are important to avoid the "oh crap" of having to re-pull a transmission... so true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woldson Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Hummm. The throwout (turbo) bearing fit my 83na clutch sleeve. For all intended purposes, i.e. length and fitments. Did not know there was a problem for others. This is why I Assumed (wrong) you meant bearing. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rolling Parts Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Did not know there was a problem for others . The "turbo/2+2/240mm" flywheel has a little more clamping force so the release fingers are a little beefier and stand up a little taller. The problem comes if you leave the longer sleeve on the transmission when you swap in a taller clutch assembly. The longer sleeve pushes on the release when you mate the trans back on the engine and so the clutch is in permanent disengage. You can shorten the slave rod to add some clearance but it's just so much easier to make all the parts match while it's all apart... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackice280zxt Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 Gosh this free clutch may not be worth it. I may just go out and buy a 2+2 n/a clutch and keep this one for when ever I get a another turbo or 2+2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woldson Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I really don't think you are going to have a problem with the clutch fork breaking a finger on an oem (turbo) pressure plate. Rolling parts has a point so you will have to decide. Even though it is hydraulic, my clutch pedal had no noticeable increase in pressure. (running stock sleeve and clutch fork, na) So it will be up to you to decide what you are going to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippintl0 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 I really don't think you are going to have a problem with the clutch fork breaking a finger on an oem (turbo) pressure plate. That's not what RollingParts said at all...actually he explained it very clearly, better than I could have, which is good, so I won't try to repeat what he already said! LOL this thread is getting messy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackice280zxt Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 so i just got my flywheel its new from autozone for a turbo car. an my 2+2 clutch I have had so all I need now is a throw out bearing sleeve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woldson Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 I've posted in the driveline section with links in order to find results for differences. There is a particular link that shows flywheel deck to pressure plate finger distances. For my self, putting the throw out bearing on the sleave that came with the transmission, using the fork that also came with transmission worked fine. You can always drill two holes, one for flashlight, one for eye in the bellhousing to take a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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