DEVIL-Z 1973 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I haven't purchased my Z project car just yet. But after reading some smog information for California I relies that gasoline cars 1975 and older, don't have to be smog checked. This information changes my thoughts I had about getting a 1978 280Z for my project. So now I am looking into my first choice, the 240Z. So what is exactly the last year U.S. 240Z that was made? I looked on Wikipedia and it only gave me a production break down for the 260Z and 280Z. Thank you for your info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtsnlvrs Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I haven't purchased my Z project car just yet. But after reading some smog information for California I relies that gasoline cars 1975 and older, don't have to be smog checked. This information changes my thoughts I had about getting a 1978 280Z for my project. So now I am looking into my first choice, the 240Z. So what is exactly the last year U.S. 240Z that was made? I looked on Wikipedia and it only gave me a production break down for the 260Z and 280Z. Thank you for your info. Model Year 1973. The 260Z was produced for model year 1974 only (US Market) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEVIL-Z 1973 Posted March 22, 2010 Author Share Posted March 22, 2010 (edited) Thank you for clearing that up for me. Another question is, was their specific years for the 240Z that they came manual? Edited March 22, 2010 by DEVIL-Z 1978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Yeah, every year. I have a 1973 240z in California. No, there is no smog requirement. I highly recommend against buying 1976+ cars unless they run really clean and you plan to leave it almost stock. The seller in the state of California is actually required to get the smog certificate. If you are to buy a 280z, make the seller deal with that. Otherwise, just get a 240z and change your display name here on the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEVIL-Z 1973 Posted March 22, 2010 Author Share Posted March 22, 2010 Yeah, every year. I have a 1973 240z in California. No, there is no smog requirement. I highly recommend against buying 1976+ cars unless they run really clean and you plan to leave it almost stock. The seller in the state of California is actually required to get the smog certificate. If you are to buy a 280z, make the seller deal with that. Otherwise, just get a 240z and change your display name here on the forum. LOL. Thanks. Yeah I am doing that right now. I am just having a hell of a time finding a 73 240Z to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModernS30 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 You may also want to know that all year z's came with the manual. Automatic is an option that is actually a little rare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galloguy05 Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 You can get a 280z if you want, and still have it smog exempt. You just have to find a 75 and only a 75 is all. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 How many times do Tony and I have to repeat this. NO CAR IS SMOG EXEMPT IN CALIFORNIA! All cars have to comply with the smog laws applicable to their model year. The only special case is model year 1975 and earlier vehicles. These are exempt for the bi-annual and sale smog inspections BUT THEY ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM THE SMOG LAWS. A police officer, BAR official, DMV employee, the DMV computer (at random or as part of a compliance survey), or a roadside random check can order your car into a smog inspection. You'll have 10 days to get it done and your vehicle will have to comply with all applicable smog laws for its model year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Let me clarify my statement then: There is no regular smog check requirement. (I said there is no smog requirement - a little vague) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEVIL-Z 1973 Posted March 24, 2010 Author Share Posted March 24, 2010 I understand what you are saying. Here is my concern with this whole project, I am planning on swapping another Nissan motor into the Z. Now if I go with say a SR20DET or a RB25DET (haven't decided yet), can I pass BAR even with it being a JDM motor and with that said if it does pass since it being a from a newer vehicle, will I then have to get smog checked as normal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverarrow27 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I understand what you are saying. Here is my concern with this whole project, I am planning on swapping another Nissan motor into the Z. Now if I go with say a SR20DET or a RB25DET (haven't decided yet), can I pass BAR even with it being a JDM motor and with that said if it does pass since it being a from a newer vehicle, will I then have to get smog checked as normal? No, the sr20det & rb were never brought to U.S. soil in vehicles. They're sold as "off-road" only. This goes for all makes and models of Japanese market vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResources/07_AutoRepair/Engine_Change_Guidelines.html http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResources/ftp/pdfdocs/Smog_Check_Guide.pdf refer to Appendix E http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResources/02_SmogCheck/Referee_Centers.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 How often has this come up for Hybridz Members? I mean... how often have members here been given a date with the ref? I know there are plenty of 240sx owners who had to swap back to stock motors to visit the ref. I've just never seen a 1975 or older car owner have to make the trip. (although I understand it is a possibility) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModernS30 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 You can swap an engine and get it BAR legal. I think this is what Johnc was posting above me. It's it can be done, it will be done again and many more time's I am sure. If you have a 70-74z it will not have the smog equipment and the standards should be lower from what I understand. Non California 75 and 76 car's do not have the smog equipment. I know one an ae86 getting the 4agze swap bar legal running the US market MR2 computer with the argument that the engine is the same that came in his car essentially. They gave him issues because the engine was not originally the same format in the mr2. If there are things I am wrong about here somebody please correct me, I will edit this post. I am just putting in my understanding. I have not lived in California and do not know every law nor have I read any of the BAR or smog stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) Whichever is newer, engine or chassis, designates which smog laws you have to comply to. If you pull an engine from a newer chassis, you are required to have EVERY smog device that came on it. You will have to pass the smog regulations of the donor vehicle. If the chassis is newer and the engine is older, then you have to make the older engine meet the requirements of the newer chassis. (to the best of my understanding) The engines he mentioned are not street legal in the US. There are no smog regulations for them, because they weren't sold in California originally and shouldn't even be on the road. Edited March 24, 2010 by Hugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEVIL-Z 1973 Posted March 24, 2010 Author Share Posted March 24, 2010 Thanks for all the information everyone. I guess I have to really figure out an alternate engine for my project. One that was made here in the U.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModernS30 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Thanks for all the information everyone. I guess I have to really figure out an alternate engine for my project. One that was made here in the U.S. L28et, easy enough. Honestly though, I would just go for the RB or SR, if you get busted to bad. No point in not having your fun, you only live once. Maybe keep a spare l28 and wiring on the side if you must swap back and do a quick swap back. That or figure out this 400hp N/A l28 with triples and your set. All I know is if I lived in California I would have a 240z and not a 280z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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