J240ZTurbo Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Hi, wondering if these are need it? are where , how do they go on the shocks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddieeats Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 After you drop the strut in and install the cap they slide down the piston shaft tapered end up and will put themselves in place after install. There a bumper between the top of the strut and where the piston rod connects to the chassis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermanpete Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 These go on the strut shaft. To install them you need to remove the springs. If you are replacing the springs or strut cartridges(shocks) it is eay to put them in during the process. You should not drive the car without any bump stops. It can damage the strut tubes or the upper spring seats. It is very harsh when it bottoms out as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19762802+2 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 After you drop the strut in and install the cap they slide down the piston shaft tapered end up and will put themselves in place after install. There a bumper between the top of the strut and where the piston rod connects to the chassis. I thought it was tapered end down, because I'm pretty sure they are supposed to fit inside the strut hat, This is how the stock ones are installed I believe tapered end down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I thought it was tapered end down, because I'm pretty sure they are supposed to fit inside the strut hat, This is how the stock ones are installed I believe tapered end down. That is the way that I installed mine as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J240ZTurbo Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 how about some pictures please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddieeats Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Sorry it is tapered end down, I worked on my last year a couldn't remember until I was corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermanpete Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 The factory service manual shows the bump stop installed tapered end down, sandwiched between the upper spring seat and the shoulder on the end of the strut shaft. We installed them tapered end up. The car had no bump stops when we got it so we did not have any example to follow. The Energy bump stops do have a small shoulder for fitting in the way the manual (and Eddie) suggest, but I don't think they will stay put. It seems like they might be sqeezed out of place from tightening the nut that holds the strut shaft in to the spring seat. They slide past the shoulder and down the strut shaft easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J240ZTurbo Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share Posted March 24, 2011 which way do they go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddieeats Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 They go tapered end facing down. When you pull the strut off the car you will see that the ring at the top will fit inside the cap that the spring sits in, there's one in there already just replace it and your good to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddieeats Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Have you checked out this site yet? http://www.atlanticz.ca/zclub/techtips/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddieeats Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 www.atlanticz.ca/zclub/techtips/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockerstar Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Hey Juan, http://forums.hybridz.org/index.php/topic/98611-posting-pictures-please-read/page__pid__924959#entry924959 I'm viewing your pics from a 22" monitor, and your hand is bigger than my entire screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19762802+2 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 which way do they go? The second picture is of the right way, You want the smaller thinner end down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 The second picture is of the right way, You want the smaller thinner end down. Just for the sake of argument---why? How does the position affect the progressive dampening function of the snubber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehelix112 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Was waiting for someone to ask that. And now I'm waiting for jmortensen to chime in.. T-5minutes I reckon. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19762802+2 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) Just for the sake of argument---why? How does the position affect the progressive dampening function of the snubber? I'm not saying it's a good design or anything but thats the best way it fits and on the stock rubber bump stops I had on my car they were angled down as well. If you try to install them the other way the tapered end is above the threads on the strut and you wouldn't be able to get the strut through the strut hat to be bolted up. Edited March 25, 2011 by 19762802+2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermanpete Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 The only thing I can think of is the spring seat is cup shaped and the bumper sits in the cup. This could help keep it from spreading out as it is compressed which may increase the spring rate. It may also help keep it from being damaged from a very hard impact. Another issue, trivial thought, is the weight will be sprung weight if they are at the top of the shaft and unsprung weight if they sit on the strut tube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Apparently nobody has seen these sitting halfway down the strut shaft because the center hole was malformed.... I'm having a very difficult time 'visualizing' what you are describing as an 'assembly difficulty'---is this making another assumption that the larger diameter of the item in question must positively be seated against something during asembly or use? I might buy Beerman's 'spreading' theory...but the comment on sprung vs unspring is dubious--the thing grabs the shaft and will ALWAYS be at the top of the shaft if you bottom the suspension continually. The aren't 'supposed' to move---and if they do you usually see them someplace mid-shaft as I described above. Anyone else? Bueller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernandoz Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Hi Does anyone have a pic of the ES bump stops installed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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