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  1. Project Dark Z

    My Honda is a 2010, so this is my first dive into something as archaic as a '73. First impression - I prefer the 73 as it's such a simple car to work on and all the space is nice! My Honda is a huge pain because they design the car to use every inch of cabin/bay space and it's extremely difficult to work on in a general sense. I don't have any fabrication or welding experience, but I have the tools and the general mechanical knowledge (plus the internet) to get me by. The nice thing is - I'm building this car to be perfect the first time. I have no budget, so any snag I run into that I can't sort out myself will be solved by a shop that can get me past the issue professionally. 1) I've already gone through two boxes of plastic sandwich bags, a roll of tape, and a sharpie labeling everything. I don't plan on reusing much of the hardware ( a lot of bolts are snapping despite using PB blaster and going slowly anyway) - but I'm keeping everything in order so I can get the correct size, thread pitch, etc for the new hardware when it's time to reassemble the car 2) I'm not sure if EZharness is the same company, but the guy I bought my Z from was building a CJ jeep from a bare frame. he bought a harness kit that makes it super easy to run your own wiring. I guess it gives you an engine/interior fuse block, and enough wiring to run through 2-3 cars. Every wire is labeled (turn signals, injectors, etc) and you can easily add in your own fuses/wires for other things that need power. So that's where I plan on going with the wiring. I may have the shop that will be building and tuning the motor do the engine harness since I'm OCD and like things neat - but the body/interior harness will likely be a DIY project. 3) I get what you're saying about getting the car on the road. Truth is this car sat in a back yard for almost 20 years and didn't move. The motor was incomplete, and the gas tank is a mess. It would take a TON of money to get the car back on the road as is, so I made the executive decision to just strip it down and start a complete rebuild. It also smelled really bad It's going to take a lot of time, and money, and patience - but I believe the end goal of having a completed restored (resto-mod) 240 Z will be well worth the next 3-4 years of projects! 1) Already got it covered - I've cataloged everything I've taken off the car 3) A lot of the hardware I'm pulling off the car is rusted or corroded to an extent - or has already snapped off. The stuff that looks okay will be blasted by the shop that does the shell, anything missing I have kept the stock stuff so I know what to replace it with. 4) The driver rocker will need to be replaced. Going to order the replacement stuff from Tabco before the shell goes to the fab shop. The passenger rocker is solid - just has a bit of surface rust. The inner rail still has a newer finish on it. We'll know for sure when the car is blasted - though. There are a few other places that bother me so it will be interesting to see how it looks with all the paint off! 5) The car will likely be bead blasted. The doors were apparently blasted with low pressure sand (why so much material was used and I was over-charged) .. but the shop I'm taking the rest of the car to is one of the best in the area so I trust they'll use the right medium. Thanks for the note. I've had build threads on other forums and everyone adds to the original post so everything is consolidated. I didn't think most people take the time to read through the entire thread but maybe I'm wrong Thanks for all the advice gentlemen!
  2. Project Dark Z

    Realized it's been a while since I updated. Still in tear-down phase. Found a few areas of rust/rot that concern me.. so my plan now is to get the entire car media blasted down to bare metal. From there, I'll have any fab/body work done that's needed, have a roll/harness bar put in, then get a coat of primer put on it so I can bring it back and take my time building it. Some updated pictures as the car is stripped down to a shell: I also had the doors blasted by a local guy who wanted the chance to do the fab work on the car. Not only did he charge me WAY too much to get the doors blasted, he lost one of the lock mechanisms..so I'll get to sort that out eventually. Needless to say, I've found a new shop to do the blasting on the rest of the car. Either way, some rot was found on the doors so they will also be going off to fabrication to get fixed up!
  3. 240Z LS3 TR6060 Build

    Thanks. Probably too small for me so I may still mount a larger cell in the stock tank location. I have a few other questions since I haven't started ordering parts yet - still stripping my Z down to send it out for sand blasting and primer. For the trans..are you having to custom fabricate a trans mount by hacking up the original one? Or is there a bolt-in mount? I was thinking of going with the bougie LS3/T56 combo but I wasn't sure what trans mount options were available - if any.
  4. 240Z LS3 TR6060 Build

    I'm thinking of going LS3 for my Z as well. Also thought about utilizing the the spare tire well as a fuel cell holder, but I want a cell big enough where I can hop in the car and drive 3-4 hours without worrying about a fill up. How big is the cell you put in? Can't tell by the lettering.
  5. I have an intro thread, but I figured I'd start a build thread to be able to track the progress of this car over the next year or two. I bought my S30 (72 240z) from a good friend I went to college with. He tried to get me to buy the car when we first met, but I never really had the time or the energy to start a massive project. I've been busy with my first project (turbocharged 8thgen Honda Si), as well as a new home which has placed a large parasite on my bank account. Due to an insurance payout from my daily being totaled, I got into something a little more economical and finally told my friend I'd come by and pick up the Z. Here she is being picked up and brought home And here she is parked in her current resting place next to my other project I just picked the car up as of 4/30/17, and I expect this build to take a few years - being that I plan on taking the car down to bare metal and then rebuilding it with as much modern technology as I can. So far, my build is expected to go as follows: Suspension, braking, and Undercarriage: Techno Toy Tuning Coilover system Techno Toy 5 lug (5x114.3) conversion Techno Toy LCA, Tension, and lower cross-member upgrade Techno Toy rear-end conversion (ditches stub shafts for 5 lug hubs) Wilwood BMC Brembo conversion of an unknown type (TBD) Exterior Front Valance (type TBD) Fender flares (TBD) Duckbill Rear Spoiler (TBD) Custom retrofitted projector headlights (I can retro headlights, so it just depends what's available at the time) Interior Modernized Gauge cluster, modernized HVAC controls with AC added (vintage air or similar) Upgraded head unit and speakers Bride Racing seats, harness bar, 5 pt. racing harnesses Reupholstered carpet and headline Engine/Transmission I'm a little torn here, so I have two options: Option 1: RB26DET 300zx Transmission 300zx rear diff Option 2: LSX crate motor T56 6-speed Transmission SR230 Rear diff A lot of this is up in the air and tentative depending on how the build progresses. I'm open to advice/input so feel free to drop a comment if you have experience! 5/3/17 Made my first major stride of progress today. Yanked the L24 motor and 4 speed out! I plan on having the interior fully stripped by the end of the week as well. My goal is to get it as bare-bones as possible and then determine where/when I can send it to get blasted and primpered 5/11/17 As I was stripping the car, I found what I had hoped I wouldn't. Nice area of rotted metal on the driver side rocker. Luckily I bought the car under the condition that there was no rot, so the previous owner is currently making arrangements to come up and patch the metal for me. But the good news is, the rest of the car is coming along. Most of the wiring harness is out, and the dash is almost ready to come out! 6/6/17 Realized it's been a while since I updated. Still in tear-down phase. Found a few areas of rust/rot that concern me.. so my plan now is to get the entire car media blasted down to bare metal. From there, I'll have any fab/body work done that's needed, have a roll/harness bar put in, then get a coat of primer put on it so I can bring it back and take my time building it. Some updated pictures as the car is stripped down to a shell: I also had the doors blasted by a local guy who wanted the chance to do the fab work on the car. Not only did he charge me WAY too much to get the doors blasted, he lost one of the lock mechanisms..so I'll get to sort that out eventually. Needless to say I've already found a new shop to do the rest of the blasitng on the car. Either way, some rot was found on the doors so they will also be going off to fabrication to get fixed up!
  6. New to the S30, not new to modifying cars

    It will likely see more street use than track use. Definitely will not be a dedicated track car. I plan on doing racing seats and a harness bar along with 5 point harnesses in both seats. What about a half cage? I know the dangers of a cage in a street car when you're not wearing a helmet. I still have to talk to an expert about what's right. But the small pillars and overall nature of a car from the 70's with no airbags worries me, so I figured a cage would be a way to offset that. Thank you! I've been doing my homework and I love how much info there is. The picture with the cherokee in it was when the car was still with its previous owner. He's a good friend and is also working on a CJ build!
  7. New to the S30, not new to modifying cars

    Thanks sir! I guess context is everything. My WRX was totaled when an uber driver ran a red light and I T-Boned him in the middle of an intersection. Never had an accident before this, or one that was my fault for that matter. Regardless, I plan on doing road racing with this car so a cage is on the list. Don't worry.
  8. I hate intro's, but my name is Matt. I live in the DC metro area, and this is my first Z... and my first Nissan/Datsun for that matter. I've always been in the Japanese car game. I have a turbo 8th gen Honda Si, and up until a month ago I had a 2002 WRX wagon (now totaled ) After having my eye on a 240z for about 6 years, I finally brought it home on Sunday. The '71 Z was my dad's first car - and he hasn't seen one since he sold his in the 80's. I've always loved the way these cars looked, and now I finally get to build one. Overall the car is in good shape. Minimal surface rust and one small area of rot under the battery tray but it's completely fixable. My end-goal for the car is to restore the body (sand blasting, repair anything that needs attention), modernize everything on the inside (new modern wiring harness, add A/C and switch to servo HVAC unit, race cage, seats, etc), and then throw something big and high output in the engine bay. I haven't landed on a swap yet, but it's likely either going to be an RB26 mated to a 300zx trans/diff, or the dime-a-dozen LS/T56 combo. I'm in the very early stages of the build (tearing the car down getting it ready for sand blasting and primer), so I'm still researching the best places to source parts from. I'm looking at the Techno Toy Tuning rear end conversion (going 5 lug) as well as most of their suspension parts up front (tension rods, LCA's, coilovers, etc). But I haven't done a lot of research for companies that offer similar product lines. I do have one question. Is there a specific forum category for build threads? I know this is an intro area, but I'd love to start a build thread to track the cars progress over the next year.
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