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I made mine out of a mud flap from a big rig. I used the JTR lower support and cut of the the tabs front and back. It worked fine. I then covered the top with some aluminum angle from home depot. You can see it here under newes pics I think it was.
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How much HP from a stock V8?
Just got a rusted out 240Z, can the chassis handle a V8?
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They look to have good feedback. I am thinking about getting the fronts only because mine are shot. That seems to be a good deal for all four corners.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7956639390&category=33590
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This site IS the conversion manual! Where else can you find so much info on the LS1 swap into an early Z? There are some general swap manuals for different configurations on mounting the LS1, fuel setup etc. Go to Barnes and Noble and search you should find a few good books, but they are not specific to Z cars. Also, Street an Performance- http://www.hotrodlane.cc -has done many LS1 swaps and has tips and articles on their site about solutions to different problems such as clutch master cylinder, fuel, wiring, etc. That is all good reading. They also have some videos you can buy, but the articles are free, so check them out.
Good luck!
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Please be aware that the late model Holden is probably an LS1, and mounting will be different if you choose that motor. Right? Anybody know for sure? I'm no expert on Aussie cars, but any SBC before '98 will work with JTR mounts.
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Congrats, good to hear. But, the other guys are right, it is just too fun to fire it up with open headers and shake the earth! I couldn't resist. My first two rides were sans exhuast!
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I had everything out of the car and did a deadlift, one end at a time. Rested the car on my leg to put the bolts in on the front. Had to have the wife put in the bolts while I held up the rear. It is doable but I would advise getting some more helpers.
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Yes, great post Mike. Amen brother. If you notice, I have a relatively low post count for how long I have lurked here, usually several times a day. I had read tons of old posts before I started my project and used the info to do my swap, and I have even done some things that others haven't based on all of the info here. Then I started to post a little more. I don't think I evenposted before I mocked up the motor with my custom mounts. But, we can make the info more available.
On FAQ, I was looking at LS1tech.com and their FAQ section on the nitrous forum covered everything I could want to know, including track times with which kit, etc, etc. Here are a few topics I think we could include.
V8 Swap, kits, parts suppliers, etc.
Spring rates for track and street. We have some great threads with discussion about this.
Wheel and tire options
Five lug conversions
Brake Conversions
Body kit parts suppliers with some pics
AND, what I think would be cool is if a lot of you track guys would give some track driving tips, maybe in a non-tech section!
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I agree with the two posts above, and as has been mentioned before, we should really get a FAQ section for the q's like "What will it take to put a V8 . . .?!" What tires fit, brake upgrades etc, etc.
I wouldn't expect one person to answer all the frequently asked questions, just designate a thread. This is the V8 swap thread, someone can write the intro and let all of those with experience answer the question once.
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If you are serious about a tubular chassis,you can do on step better than plans. JEGS sells one that is weld together and set up for a solid rear, but it would be a good platform for an IRS as well.
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Wow! Most newer aluminum radiators are 2 core. How fat is that thing?
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I kind of went the other way and used mostly Firebird parts because I had the whole car as a donor.
1972 240Z with a Velo Rossa Kit.
1)2001 LS1 From a FTA WS6 with 10K miles. It came with LS6 intake and I run an ASP underdrive pulley.
2)T56 stock with Pro 5.0 shifter
3)Custom cross member welded to the original and bolted to the engine rails. Corvette sytle mounts.
4) I used the LS1 fuel tank, Gauges, brake booster and master cylinder, modified stock wiring harness by Speartech and reprogramming. Small GM alternator and pulleys from Street and Performance. S&P 1 5/8 headers to 2.5 dual exhaust with X-pipe then to 3" Power effects mufflers and tips. I got the 240Z mid '01, and the LS1 about 2/02. Everything but body work is complete, but this may be a never "finished" project.
5) Carrera coilovers in front with Z31 hubs and Toyota 4X4 Brakes. Rear is a complete transplant of 300ZXtt brakes, VLSD R230 with 3.7 gears, custom Moser axles and 240SX subrame and multilink suspension.
First drive impression and exhaust here:
http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=96038
Some early build pics here:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maichor75104
Some other photos here:
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Please include:
1. Year of motor/mods
2. Tranny
3. Kit used or explanation of your custom mounts.
4. Any special accessories or parts needed for the swap, including fuel, wiring, etc.
5. Date you started on the project, date finished
6. Other car mods (suspension, brakes, etc.)
Optional:
Pictures and miscellaneous info!
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Oh, yeah Briguy! He sold me some GM service manuals. I haven't seen him on in a while. And since you mentioned a club, which may be too much to ask given we are spread out so much, but we could start a thread. I'll put one up an see how it goes.
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I don't know his name either. But, you have to know who Lonestar1 is, so here it goes.
Lonestar1, Gary is from Mesquite Texas. He was the first to complete the LS1 swap and did it all himself with a crate LS1. He has a beautiful blue Z with white racing stripes. He has an auto tranny, stall, and a few bolt ons. If by a few bolt ons you mean a supercharger! He has the only Supercharged Z that I am aware of. It is a magnacharger and he says the car is scary fast now. There you go!
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Hey, LS1 Z, you forgot LoneStar1, Jeromio, Cyrus, and me (Maichor). I am so hurt and offended!!!! Not! As many have said, John's cars has a kit. If you are interested in doing your own mounts, I suggest you read our marathon thread on the LS1. This thread predates the John's cars kit and has good info from those that have done it from scatch. Not essential reading if you use a kit, but good info nonetheless.
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I would have to say that overall, it is smooth and stable. Especially launching and during wheel spin. Cornering feels tight and crisp with very little body roll. Trying to slide the rear out under was more difficult than I imagined, which makes my wife happy. Unfortunately, the only time I drove the car before the makeover was with completely shot springs and struts on all four corners. Seriously, the car looked slammed and it had stock springs.
The bad news, Bumps. I have driven on some poor roads and things feel very stiff. It handles like a race car, not a luxury sedan. I have yet to replace the front struts, that should smooth things out a bit. I will let you know once that is done. Also, I need new tires on the rear. The 335's are not meant to be on the 10.5" wheels. I am going to go down to a 315, that will straighten out the sidewall and should change the feel as well.
All in all, I am very pleased.
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You will need the hub carrier from the 300ZXTT to work with the S13 Subframe "carrier" and your axles will need to be shortened. I narrowed up the subframe 1", you could probably go 4" shorter max, but you would have to take it out of both sides and it would not be as pretty because you would have to cut some of the supporting metal. That would leave your track 1.5" wider than stock in the rear, or .75" per side. PM me if you want a better description and we can talk on the phone.
I recommend getting new custom axles from Moser at your desired length. Shortening and reslpining the hardened steel is a machinists nightmare. After several quotes, I gave up and got new axles. Also, to save a little money, you can use the cast iron hub assembly from the 90-96 Q45. There is virtually no demand for these and I picked mine up cheap. You have the option of keeping the Q45 brakes or using the 300ZXTT brakes. IF you are upgrading the brakes, I would find 300ZXTT hubs with brakes and buy it all, remember to get the 300ZXTT lower control arms.
Good luck.
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I agree with the returnless setup. No problems here.
Hey, that vette filter return would make my fuel lines a little more compact.
One correction though, NOT ALL LS1's are drive by wire. The Camaro, Firebird, Trans Am LS1's are all CABLE throttle bodies. You can easily swap to a cable TB if you want, it still has a throttle position sensor that will work with the ECU, but it would probably be just as easy to rig your pedal to send the appropriate signal. I run the stock Firebird cable rigged up to the stock gas pedal and it works fine.
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Oh, by the way, the real GTO's have vents that open and close, here they are closed. It looks good both ways.
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I wouldn't worry about cooling, I have not cut the opening out yet and I have not had any problems. I do have an aluminum 2 row radaitor and F-body fans, but they hardly ever run. My buddy suggested I close the rear recesses also, but I like them.
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Blue73Z, I do like that motorcycle color. See how it almost looks yellow in direct light and orange/brown in indirect light. That might save a bundle over someone trying to reproduce a $15,000 paint job as on the hot rod for $2000. I wonder what that color looks like in the sun? This will be a fair weather driver.
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Thanks, for all of your ideas. Keep them coming.
I love the silver as well. I also saw a metallic grey that looked very good. The only reason I didn't jump right on the silver was because it felt like copying a masterpiece. Every VR owner knows that was Steve Graber's car. I wanted to make my own. With very few VR's I could be the ONLY orange one. The orange I have pictured in my head, I can't seem to reproduce in photoshop. Blueovalz is right, if the orange or yellow is not the right shade, it can look bad. I also agree with letting the woman pick the color. She was the one that started second guessing the blue. It looks ok, but a little out of place. I am going for the updated look, mainly because I cant find wire wheels wide enough. Custom wheels are $$$ and the Cobra R's were the cheapest thing out there, but they have grown on me and I am pleased with how they look on the car. Below the blue car is a better example of the orange I was thinking of. Something that changes dramatically in the light.
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I like the way light colors show off the lines, vents, curves etc. The dark colors show off the accents and the chrome very well. I love the black, but it hides the vents and and front openings a little and shows off body imperfections. Red is hot, but I am not going for authentic Ferrari. I won't have any badges etc. And, like someone mentioned before, I have never seen orange, it would be unique.
Here is a photoshop and some other colors. Any votes for orange now?
Need some info on the GM LQ4.....6.0L
in Gen I & II Chevy V8 Tech Board
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The url for Street and Performance is:
http://www.hotrodlane.cc
Who knows why. I think the also have http://www.tunedport.com