19762802+2 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) What the heck, This is the fastest moving AWD swap I've ever seen or heard of. I'm pretty jealous to say the least. I'm currently building a EJ22 phase 2 out of a 97 Impreza for my Beetle project. What is your plan for the shifter? Seems like placement would be tricky. Edited May 11, 2012 by 19762802+2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP.. Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 What the heck, This is the fastest moving AWD swap I've ever seen or heard of. I'm pretty jealous to say the least, What year Subie are you using? Model? Motor? I'm currently building a EJ22 phase 2 out of a 97 Impreza for my Beetle project. What is your plan for the shifter? Seems like placement would be tricky. I used a 99 Subaru Forester, lol I have 3 of them, well now 2 as I chopped up the red one, using the sheet metal from it too, lol Shifter is an easy fix, just have to lenthen the rod so the subie shifter reaches the Zs hole, add the little thingy thing from the subie shifter and it will be done, I do feel like I am cheating here, but its still allot of work, around 30 hours so far, plan to put in a 2.5 Franken motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19762802+2 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I used a 99 Subaru Forester, lol I have 3 of them, well now 2 as I chopped up the red one, using the sheet metal from it too, lol Shifter is an easy fix, just have to lenthen the rod so the subie shifter reaches the Zs hole, add the little thingy thing from the subie shifter and it will be done, I do feel like I am cheating here, but its still allot of work, around 30 hours so far, plan to put in a 2.5 Franken motor. Nice I noticed right after I posted what you were using, Just had to re-read your posts, Are you going NA or Turboed? Down the road I've considered doing a Ej25 with Ej22 heads and since I'm using megasquirt run it with E85 and I'm already building ITB's for the EJ22 but we'll see how quick it is with the Ej22 should be a lot faster then It was before haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP.. Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 Nice I noticed right after I posted what you were using, Just had to re-read your posts, Are you going NA or Turboed? Down the road I've considered doing a Ej25 with Ej22 heads and since I'm using megasquirt run it with E85 and I'm already building ITB's for the EJ22 but we'll see how quick it is with the Ej22 should be a lot faster then It was before haha. Not sure but for now NA, later maybe a twin turbo since ill have lots of room for it behind the engine. I am still trying to figureout where to put the radiator! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S30 SPL Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Man, if I could swap my 2011 STI under my Z... lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP.. Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 Man, if I could swap my 2011 STI under my Z... lol. You can, just need a sawzall and mig and anything can be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19762802+2 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Not sure but for now NA, later maybe a twin turbo since ill have lots of room for it behind the engine. I am still trying to figureout where to put the radiator! You could run a earlier Jeep cherokee radiator angled back towards the motor, You could run a Honda Civic radiator or 2 which should allow for some space as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi303 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Not sure but for now NA, later maybe a twin turbo since ill have lots of room for it behind the engine. I am still trying to figureout where to put the radiator! With the room BEHIND the motor, why not put it THERE and duct it out through shark gill slots between the front wheel wells and the door? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP.. Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 With the room BEHIND the motor, why not put it THERE and duct it out through shark gill slots between the front wheel wells and the door? I like the idea of having 2 rads, but let me get the motor in and take pics, ideally it should go where it belongs, in front of the motor, if the motor takes up too much room up front then ill consider options with you guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP.. Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 Ok the engine is in for test fit, it certainly is forward! Now if I do mount the radiator behind the motor flat pointing up or down with fans, what way would I want the air flow to go? I am thinking louvers on the hood. I could make it fit in front but very very tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luseboy Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) Is this car going to be street driven? I know some racers like to put the rad in the hatch. You could replace the quarter windows with a piece of lexan with some big NACA ducts and duct from there... Maybe even a hood scoop. Probably wouldn't want to do it on a street car though. I'd think you could mount the rad horizontally or angled over the trans and pull air through the hood, fenders, wheel wells, ducted from the front of the car, etc. That could be a cool set up. The other thing I'm wondering is if it would be possible to put the rad in front of the rad support. It might work there... You'd need some slim fans though. Edited May 12, 2012 by luseboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP.. Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 Is this car going to be street driven? I know some racers like to put the rad in the hatch. You could replace the quarter windows with a piece of lexan with some big NACA ducts and duct from there... Maybe even a hood scoop. Probably wouldn't want to do it on a street car though. I'd think you could mount the rad horizontally or angled over the trans and pull air through the hood, fenders, wheel wells, ducted from the front of the car, etc. That could be a cool set up. The other thing I'm wondering is if it would be possible to put the rad in front of the rad support. It might work there... You'd need some slim fans though. I plan to make it for both street and track so I can drive it on weekends to the track, I live like 20 minutes from the Calaboogie race trace. I have the rad sitting in there flat like and it looks cool, I think I will make a brace for the shock towers and incorperate it with brackets for the rad, just got back from the dump with some nice sheet metal for the floors, hopefully get all this welding behind me asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six_Shooter Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 After seeing the engine test fit pictures I like the idea of the rad in front of the rad support. With some proper ducting/air deflectors, it could be a very efficient set-up. That would leave a lot of space behind the engine for turbocharger(s).... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzydicerule Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Easiest clutch change ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disepyon Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Im sure you thought about this, but wouldnt a rb26dett awd be a better choice? the axles would bolt up to the oil pan which is right in the middle of the motor underneath rather than at the tranny like the subaru. I just dont like the fact that the motor sets at the front end of the bay, wouldnt this through the balance of the car way off? I know i shouldnt judge you until your done but im just wondering. I dont know what the suspension looks like on the gtr's, im just looking at the pictures on google of the oilpan and trans, so maybe it wouldnt work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkumaNoZeta Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 This looks like it will be the easiest car ever to work on. You can quickly change timing belt/tensioners just by reaching in through the grill, won't even have to open the hood and as Fuzzydice mentioned, clutch replacement, just unbolt the transmission and slide it back with no heavy lifting at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP.. Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 Im sure you thought about this, but wouldnt a rb26dett awd be a better choice? the axles would bolt up to the oil pan which is right in the middle of the motor underneath rather than at the tranny like the subaru. I just dont like the fact that the motor sets at the front end of the bay, wouldnt this through the balance of the car way off? I know i shouldnt judge you until your done but im just wondering. I dont know what the suspension looks like on the gtr's, im just looking at the pictures on google of the oilpan and trans, so maybe it wouldnt work out. The engine is sitting in the same position as it does on any subaru, so I dont think it will matter that it is forward, my only concern is the rear being too light. I had these cars in my yard so I am going with it. the rad location is on hold for now, just trying to get the metal work done, I keep getting bothered by people coming over and asking what the hell am I doing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP.. Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 After seeing the engine test fit pictures I like the idea of the rad in front of the rad support. With some proper ducting/air deflectors, it could be a very efficient set-up. That would leave a lot of space behind the engine for turbocharger(s).... there really is not much room in front of the rad support but ill take it into consideration. here is a pic with the hood on it, everything clears nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19762802+2 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Another thing to think about having the radiator flat like behind the motor is that you may have issues bleeding the system, all which can be dealt with though, If you keep the radiator in the back you could do a hood scoop almost like the STI's and have the air pass down through the rad. But it looks like there is plenty of room for a Small Honda Radiator in front. Another thing to think about is if you go Turbo down the road where you will be able to mount the Intercooler. You could always flip the Intake manifold around so the Throttle body faces forward as well, Should flip with no problems whatsoever. Some pictures of a Honda Rad in a Z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP.. Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 Another thing to think about having the radiator flat like behind the motor is that you may have issues bleeding the system, all which can be dealt with though, If you keep the radiator in the back you could do a hood scoop almost like the STI's and have the air pass down through the rad. But it looks like there is plenty of room for a Small Honda Radiator in front. Another thing to think about is if you go Turbo down the road where you will be able to mount the Intercooler. You could always flip the Intake manifold around so the Throttle body faces forward as well, Should flip with no problems whatsoever. Some pictures of a Honda Rad in a Z. Thanks for the pics, I did think of flipping the intake around but I think it will hit the hood, the STI hood scoop for sure, see this pic, the rad could sit lower like this with fans on top, still room for the twin turbos on the sides and above the rad. Now if I could find a wide yet short rad it could go up front, but then no room for the turbo intercooler as someone mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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