BLKMGK Posted June 22, 2000 Share Posted June 22, 2000 I'm slowly planning my swap here and am pondering exhaust. I think I know what I'll do for headers but am waiting to see if I'll be using angle plug heads or not first, this part is fairly easy - they WILL be shorties. But what about mufflers? I expect to have a cell mounted much like Mike's tech article. He's using Flowmasters, I've seen others using DynoMax, and all sorts of others. However I've got this insane idea to drive th elittle Honda guys nutz - I want a set of coffee can sized stainless mufflers like they seem to run 99% of the time. I'm thinking th eones used onthe 300ZX TT might work if space isn't too bad. I know these aren't cheap (cough) so I'm wondering before I even try to get them - will they handle the exhaust flow? Some of the TT's are pushing some serious HP.. What about sound? Would these blast my ears out? Last but not least - anyone think this is a really stupid idea? I just have this image of a 240 with a couple of nice stainless mufflers blasting past a damned Honda is all - hard to remove from my mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted June 22, 2000 Share Posted June 22, 2000 hey, why not drive EVERYONE crazy and go with side exhausts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Scott Posted June 22, 2000 Share Posted June 22, 2000 BLKMGK, There aren't any stupid ideas here. If you've got a mind set on something go for it. Its going to be YOUR ride so make it the way that gives you the most satisfaction. Put the biggest damn exhaust you can find/fit. Let some V8 thunder put the rice rockets to shame. JS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest needwaymorespeed Posted June 22, 2000 Share Posted June 22, 2000 ive been thinking about some side pipes for exhaust-less weight and they do look cool on the right car-ie-a early cobra or how about a 67 corvette 427!!! dont know if they would look good though- also dont know who makes them??for general applications- Im thinkin it might solve some of the problems with gas line heat soak-thats alot of stuff crammed into a z car trans tunnel when you want to run 2.5 dual exhaust. Saw gone in 60 seconds the other day-fun movie but was hoping for more chase scenes. I liked the side exhaust in the side skirts on the mustang.. Anyone ever do sidepipes on a early z?? Do you guys think it would look good?? How about the sideskirt idea?? IS IT LEGAL TO DO? WILL BIG BROTHER SAY NO WAY CAUSE OF POSSIBLE EXHAUST FUMES GETTING INTO CAR?? its not like the exhaust doesant come in thru the back on most of these cars anyway-ie bad gaskets fir taillight etc etc etc.... Let me know what you think Curtis needwaymorespeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLKMGK Posted June 23, 2000 Author Share Posted June 23, 2000 Side exhaust? Hrm, not for me thanks Thrush used to sell a universal kit I think - check with them. As for the Mustangs - looks cool huh? Ever see what a speed bump does to it? Not pretty I'm afraid - I know two guys who have removed it after trashing the side covers. You also have to worry about burns if it's not well covered. As for legality - so long as the exhaust exits behind the driver's door it ought to be fine. Hrm, maybe side turnouts in front of the rear tires? I still yearn for the big coffee cans but I'd actually like it to be somewhat quiet - can't sneak up on them with loud pipes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelly Posted June 23, 2000 Share Posted June 23, 2000 You aren't going to "SNEAK" up on them at all, and I think you are nuts for even thinking that... Have you heard a healthy V8 in a Zcar? The words quiet and stealth do not apply.... Mike ------------------ "I will not be a spectator in the sport of life!" mjk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frank280z Posted June 23, 2000 Share Posted June 23, 2000 I agree with Mike. You will not fool anybody with a healthy 8 under the hood. The run for the exhaust is short enough. And I purchased my Z with a side pipe setup. It looked sick. And it sounded like a gutted Harley on each side of the car. Whew. I could hear it now. You'll knock these pipes off the car with the right hit. If you can't get to an exhaust shop; Stainless Works is a mail order exhaust shop with "you form" template kits. A little different way of going about it. But I've only heard good things about the company.(800) 878-3635 for a free catalog. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted June 23, 2000 Share Posted June 23, 2000 How about a paint can sized one? When I was test fitting before I bought the muffler, I used a paint can to see how much clearance I had. Mine is the Apex'i muffler with a 5 inch tip. Owen http://www.homestead.com/s30z/files/exhaust.htm ------------------ http://www.homestead.com/s30z/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLKMGK Posted June 23, 2000 Author Share Posted June 23, 2000 YES! Okay - I want to know what that puppy SOUNDS like when it's cranked up I figure with two I'll have a chance at it being somewhat quiet(er). Can you give me any info on inlet size etc.? Since you're only running one pipe I assume 3inch? Mike, I'll be interested in hearing what yours sounds like. I'd really like to have half a chance of sneaking up on the little Honda and VW punks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted June 24, 2000 Share Posted June 24, 2000 Are you talking to me? If so, the inlet is 3" and the body is more than 5" I think, the tip was about 5". It's an Apex'i Dunk, I think Apex has a website. I plan to get a big ol resonator/silencer! Owen ------------------ http://www.homestead.com/s30z/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLKMGK Posted June 24, 2000 Author Share Posted June 24, 2000 Owen, yes - that's what I'd like! However checking out their WEB site and some of th esites catering to the Honda folks with those mufflers... eeep! Them puppies are some kind of steep! Also, they appear to be nothing but "unbaffled" stainless steel cans! Ouch, that sucker has got to be some kind of loud. They reccomend resonators to help muffle them - duh what's the point then? I'm just going to have to keep my eyes open and see what I can find. Borla and Dynomax both have some decent stainless mufflers designed for V8s but I'd not have the look I want. Heh, I noticed they have a kit that fits my Miata btw Hrm, maybe Borla or Dynomax make something similiar? There's always Supertrap but those sound like you've got an exhaust leak all the time (lol). Thanks for the lead tho', appreciate it. you've captured my idea pretty well except that I want two of 'em. Vroom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax240z Posted June 24, 2000 Share Posted June 24, 2000 Actually, an exhaust with a resonator and a no baffle muffler (on an I-6 anyway) gives off quite a nice sound. Without the resonator, you get a lot of drone, not to mention drag racer-like noise... but add in the resonator and baffleless muffler and you have a nice rich tone, very sweet. ------------------ Drax240z 1973 240z - L28TURBO transplant on the way! http://members.xoom.com/r_lewis/datsun.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLKMGK Posted June 25, 2000 Author Share Posted June 25, 2000 Okay, can you explain about the resonator? Is this simply a baffle before or after the muffler? Is it installed like a tip? I looked closely at Mike Kelly's exhaust tonight and it actually looked better than I remembered. I might go for Dynomax instead of Flo's to quiet it down but that might be a cheaper option than the Honda type stuff. I've got a ways to go before it's a big concern though so plenty of time to think Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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