Georgia Flash Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 Well guys I finally went and bought a raggedy ole 75 Camaro. Now here's the fun part, lets see what the sucker really has under the hood! I was told by the young seller that the car still had the original engine and that it was a 350. Here are the numbers I found so far: On the drivers side back of block: 3970014 On the passenger side front behind the alternator:T0705CMA On the passenger side rear of block: T5CONV2 Ok fellas what do I have? Me and the misses have to run to Kmart so I will check when I get back. Thanks in advance guys, I know you will come through! Pics soon! By the way I doubt very seriously that the car has its original engine. It has Edlebrock aluminum intake and Holly 4 barrel, and full length headers, Vrooooom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thurem Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 Casting # reference There you go help yourself. Thure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Flash Posted May 10, 2002 Author Share Posted May 10, 2002 Ok went to that site and found out that the engine is a 350 and could be in a 70-76 camaro 2 or 4 bolt main. Another site said that it could be a 70-73 which is correct? Also what does the code on the front of the block say about my car? Can not find that on the site you gave, maybe I missed it. I will keep looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 Looks like it could be original: 3970014....350...70-76...2 or 4 Regards, Lone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Flash Posted May 10, 2002 Author Share Posted May 10, 2002 Lone, it has the long oil filler tube in the front of the engine, you know the type I am talking about? I had a 76 Camaro with a 350 and it didn't have this long filler neck thing that this engine has. when did Chevrolet stop using this method of oil filler location and move to the valve cover filler holes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Flash Posted May 10, 2002 Author Share Posted May 10, 2002 Ok here is pic of engine, note the long oil filler tube, they also have two valve covers with the oil caps on them too. So really it has three places to put oil in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike C Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 Chevrolet quit using the intake fill tube in '68. That looks like an old Edelbrock intake. P4B maybe? Notice the new Performer RPM has a flat spot which can be machined to install fill tube. I plan on doing this and grinding off all of Edelbrock's casting names, numbers, etc. for the sleeper effect in my 'vette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Flash Posted May 10, 2002 Author Share Posted May 10, 2002 Ah ha... I thought that filler tube looked ancient to me. Now I wonder what this engine came from and what year of car? How do I go about finding out those things? Here is the link to see more pics: http://communities.msn.com/WowIcouldvehadaZ8Datsun/_whatsnew.msnw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 Congratulations! looks like you have a foundation to work with. a 4 bolt would be great. Work the bugs out of it. Looks like I will have some free time about Tuesday to get some seriousspacers going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Flash Posted May 10, 2002 Author Share Posted May 10, 2002 Cool T-Zee, the car runs pretty good it was raining yesterday when I drove it home though so I couldn't stand on it for fear of flying off the road into a ditch. The guy told me that it had a Munci Rock Crusher tranny and a Lokar rear end. However he also said that the engine was a special order vette engine that came with the car and had never been molested. LOL, just looking at those valve covers will tell you the story on that note. I was wondering, is there any way to get rid of the long filler tube by means of a block off plate and just use the valve cover filler location, ((when I buy my new covers))?? Also where can I go to find the info about my engine that I found on the suffix code? I have seen posts on here before where guys post thier engine numbers and someone deciphers it for them. Oh what fun I will have on my off day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Night_rider_383 Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 Flash....Here you go bud. To me seems engine is oem. CASTING#.....SIZE...YEAR...MAIN CAP BOLTS....NOTES 3970014....350...70-74...2 or 4 year stamp RPO CID appl VIN HP BBLS Body/Comments 1974 CMA 350 turhydro trans.- - 2 A B F X so it shows a 74 350, with 2 bbl. carb, came in a,b,f,and x body cars with a turbo 3 speed auto trans. Heres the horsepower and all on it Year CID Carb Comp HP/GPH @rpm net trq @rpm Bore Stroke Models/Comment 1974 350 R2 8.5005 145@3600 250@2200 4.001 3.48 Seems like you got a pretty good one to work with. If you wanted to do away with the oil fill tube theres 2 ways of doing it. One buy a new intake. Two pull the tube out and drive the right size frost plug in place of it, be sure to put a sealer on the out side of the plug before you put it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike C Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 If that is a P4B, it's a real antique. Makes an OK truck torque manifold but not much better than the cast iron Q-jet manifold. Nightrider is right, just get the appropriate freeze plug. I have a GM LT-1 intake and that is how it is plugged up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Flash Posted May 10, 2002 Author Share Posted May 10, 2002 ok went out and looked at the Edlebrock manifold, the only numbers I found were arranged in this order: S.P.2-P. I looked at the Holley carb but couldn't find any numbers on it. Is this the old manifold that you guys have been talking about? I'm heading back out to look some more. Be back in a few. Oh almost forgot, thanks nightrider for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike C Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 The SP2P is very similar. It is a good truck manifold, but a very dated design now. Spend the $ on an Edelbrock Performer RPM or Holley 300-36. THe HOlley carb numbers will be stamped on the choke tower facing the front of the car. Pull off the aircleaner and you'll see them unless somebody hacksawed the tower off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Flash Posted May 10, 2002 Author Share Posted May 10, 2002 Yep I was thinking about the Edelbrock performer manifolds. I went out and pulled the manual choke lever and it fired up on the turn of the key It seems that the engine is pretty solid in spite of how gunked up the engine bay is. Looks like the old intake has a small crack in it where the oil filler tube connects and thus oil creeps out all over the engine, very very slowly but it makes for quit an ugly engine bay. The oil cap on the driver's side valve cover seems to be stripped and oil also creeps from here as well. All of this doesn't matter because probably all of these items will be replaced. It does sound good with the one chamber flow masters ((well at least that's what the guy said it had)) dont you just love to buy something and not know what you have until you get to poking around with it. Ok I'm rambling now, Mike I will go back out and see if I can find those numbers on the Holley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike kZ Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 So what did you pay for that beauty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Flash Posted May 10, 2002 Author Share Posted May 10, 2002 He was asking $1600! I got him down to $1100 on the phone. Paid him $900 I really didn't want to go to 900 on the car but I figured that I could get some of my money back by parting out the rest of the car. I sure as hell wasn't going to go $1600. Mike the numbers on the Holley are as follows: List-1850-2 0449 We will figure this thing out yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike C Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 The 1850 is a Holley 600 vacuum. Should have side hung float bowls with single inlet fuel line and an aluminum "transfer tube" running from the fron bowl to the rear. The -2 means it was made sometime between (Approximately!)1980 and around 1992 or so before the -3 carbs appeared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Flash Posted May 10, 2002 Author Share Posted May 10, 2002 Thanks again Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyvette Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 looks like the guys answered most of your questions already, you will easily eliminate that fill tube by useing a newer style intake manifold, which one you should buy will depend on the other parts and rpm range you want to build the engine for.if you have the cylinder head casting numbers that will help identify them.btw why are you playing with cars with a cute girl like that to play with as an option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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