TomoHawk Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 Just got some braided SS lines from MSA. there's an obvious label stuck on each line that says, "for offroad use only. Do not use on public roads or highways." What's up with that? Why bother selling them for a Z (street car- not offroad)? Is it too much braking for street? Thx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim240z Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 Probably just means that the NTSB hasn't 'certified' them. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boobala Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 To avoid leagal liability. If the lines fail and you end-up hurt or dead, you can't sue them (MSA or the maker) if you used them on a public raod. "Off road use only" means "Not on Public roads." AKA NOT DOT legal. Race tracks, drag strips, logging roads, or doing donuts in your backyard is okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greimann Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 The lines do not meet the SAE whip test that subjects the lines to stresses that try to separate the hose from the fittings. They are perfectly safe for the street, it is just a testing technicality. Read here: http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLine/Products/EPP/EPPBS/Hyperfirm.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted July 27, 2003 Author Share Posted July 27, 2003 Mine have the Earl's trademark shrinky on them. Can I assume that makes them better than just an ordinary SS brake line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Your Car is Slow Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 ridiculous that SS lines arent DOT legal...but the stock BALOONS sold on most vehicles are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyZ Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 Mine have the Earl's trademark shrinky on them. Can I assume that makes them better than just an ordinary SS brake line? I think it is safe to assume that they are very good quality and you never have to worry about them at all. I won't. Davy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest billy383Z Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 I've been running the braided SS lines from MSA on my '77 Z for about 6 years now, and haven't had any problems. I trust them far more than the stock rubber ones... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted July 27, 2003 Author Share Posted July 27, 2003 OK. I will put them on, and keep an eye out for some approved ones- for peace of mind. This set aught to last for a summer or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLKMGK Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 Shrink tubing over them is also a good thing - keeps dirt out of the braid. It's possible to get grit in there and have it work into the braid weakening the line. My rear SS hoses have shrinkwrap, my fronts don't. <shrug> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug71zt Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 12 years on my MSA braided lines with no problems - don't think that you need to be worried. I should have got the clutch line also - maybe this winter... Cheers - Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Shrink wrap is usually added to keep the braid from acting like a file on parts it may come in contact with. Braided brake lines, if not properly routed, will file away the edge of your rims and/or grind metal off most anything it touches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted July 28, 2003 Author Share Posted July 28, 2003 Shrink wrap is usually added to keep the braid from acting like a file on parts it may come in contact with. It was just a small piece with the logo on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted July 28, 2003 Author Share Posted July 28, 2003 I called MSA and they told me that the sticker is just some CYA until the lines are approved. I was (assured) they should be safe to use until then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo280zEd Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 I got the SS clutch cable... but when i tried to install it the hydraulic line to the slave cylinder.. the nut rounded... so... do i leave it as is since i did not break the seal? or does somebody have a way of getn' it off and a solution for a new one? -Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rick458 Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 get a 6" pipe wrench from Rigid, There are VERY few fasteners the a 6" rigid cant remove.then use a tubing wrench when putting the new one on I think it is a 14MM Sears Hardware has a set from 10MM-16MM for $29.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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