TomoHawk Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 I heard that U.S. congress (as opposed to PROgress) is supposed to be working on laws to limit the type of restoration and I think how old of a car you can work with? Anybody in the know about this to 'splain it to me? I heard about it on one of those Saturday-morning TV old-car shows, but they didn't give any details. It sounds like the manufacturers want you to buy a new car instead of recycling or restoring something special. This means to me that if you found an old million-dollar Duesenberg, Ferrari, etc., you'd have to junk it. :~( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB26powered74zcar Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 I seen something along those lines yesterday in a Autozone. There was a form at the desk to sighn called "right to xx" (can't remember the name). It had to do with that subject. I sighned it, as there were many sigs on it already... That will be a major bummer if they manage to pass that phucked up law.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nic-Rebel450CA Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Be sure of what you are signing... if congress is trying to get that to pass, you may actually be signing something to help them. Be sure to read very carefully. I dont really see how they could get it to pass, then every single state would have to update their DMV requirements for "street-legal" vehicles. If they simply say no because of the age, we can just sue for discrimination! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted January 5, 2004 Author Share Posted January 5, 2004 SIGN something??? I dunno.... with all the paranoia about 'identity theft' going around, I think I would suggest that you go find out where you can send email msgs to, and tell all your car buddies. This is one chain mail message I wouldn't mind spreading! In eith er case, somebody find out what it is supposed to mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim240z Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 There is nothing mentioned on the SEMA website (usually all over these types of things), or any of the other Auto websites that track legislative initiatives. Maybe a storm in a teacup? Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted January 5, 2004 Author Share Posted January 5, 2004 I was able to find a little info. Basically, there was going to be legislation to PAY you (or get a credit) to scrap your older (15+ years) car, which was aimed at getting all those gas-guzzling, "unsafe" wrecks off the road. That means that wrecking yards could possibly scrap the ENTIRE YARD, which would mean no more parts cars, restorable cars, etc. http://www.imcool.com/articles/politics/SEMA_Update_no_car_scrappage.htm You could also be FORCED to scrap your older car http://www.corvetteclubmi.com/legislation.htm FYI, it's Section 832 of S. 517 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 I have to agree with what Nic said. I don't know if any of you watch Penn and Teller's show "Bullsh!t" on Showtime, but they got LOTS of signatures at an Earth day rally to ban "di-hydrogen oxide". They claimed that it was filling our lakes and rivers, that companies used it to process chemicals, etc. Very funny to watch people sign that. Freakin lemmings... Just because the petition is in your local auto parts store doesn't mean you should sign it. If you're not going to take the time to read it, don't sign it. I once signed a petition to get open area usage on the ballots so that voters could determine what happened to open space in my area (SOAR if anyone recognizes that). Turns out I was signing a petition that supported letting voters determine what was done with PRIVATELY HELD open space. So if you were a farmer and wanted to sell your land the voters had to agree that you should be ABLE to sell it and had to approve of who you sold it to and the reason it was sold (they wanted to stop developers from buying farmland). I was pissed when I saw that I had been tricked into getting that crap on the ballot, luckily it did not pass in my area. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted January 5, 2004 Author Share Posted January 5, 2004 "di-hydrogen oxide" I used to be an R&D chemist, and we had a list of those crazy nanmes. di-hydrogen oxide H20 hydrogen hydroxide H OH oxygen hydride O H2 dide-carbaxolic, cis-, trans-methylated nothing H-H-O= etc. didn't have to be chemically feasible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nic-Rebel450CA Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 I think that it would actually have to be called dihydrogen monoxide. I love referring to it as that. It sounds so lethal! But you dont have to be gullable to sign something that you dont mean to sign, just someone not ready to sit down and read the whole page or more of what you are signing. If you arent going to read the whole thing, just dont sign it. A missed signature for a good cause, is better than an acquired signature for a bad cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zachb55 Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 yeah, my science teacher gave us a quiz one day and asked us what Dihydrogen Monoxide was, because we had been studying the di, mono, octo sorts of things and no one got it right, but i remember it now by golly! anyways, back to the point of the post. i would definately doubt this would be passed as well, i mean, like you said congress is the opposite of progress, whats the likliness of it happening in the next 20 years? none hopefully! -Zach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimZ Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 i would definately doubt this would be passed as well' date=' i mean, like you said congress is the opposite of progress, whats the likliness of it happening in the next 20 years? none hopefully![/quote'] Why sit around and hope somebody else fixes things for you? It's pretty easy to voice your opinion through proper channels these days - you can just drop your legislator an email: http://www.congressweb.com/cweb4/index.cfm?orgcode=SEMA This link also gives a pretty helpful guide to lobbying your elected officials. It gives some good pointers to help ensure that you are taken seriously: http://www.enjoythedrive.com/content/?id=8212 Finally, here are some links to SEMA's legislative alerts, so you can see what's being proposed: http://www.enjoythedrive.com/content/?id=7985 http://www.enjoythedrive.com/content/?id=7984 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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