Guest iskone Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 The FCC is limiting free speach! Help and stop them by signing a online petition. You can read about some of the stuff going on here if you haven't already heard. http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&edition=us&q=fcc+indecency&btnG=Search+News http://www.tvweek.com/topstorys/031504senate.html They won't even let people play fart sounds or even say fart on T.V. SIGN THE PETITION IF WANT WANT A CHOICE!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.stopfcc.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim240z Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Good luck...the FCC are a bunch of appointed bureaucrats at the whim of the far right republican party (Bush). They aren't part of any government agency, and their 'rules' have no foudation in any laws..... Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Gee Tim, seems like you forgot all about Tipper Gore and Joe Lieberman. There are two motivations for limiting obscenity IMO: religion, generally used by the conservatives under the guise of promoting "morality" and "family values", and political correctness, generally used by the left to try and supress anything that is offensive to anyone under the guise of being "tolerant". IMO they're both wrong. I don't need a pre-school like atmosphere in order to feel comfortable. Talk about making laws for the lowest common denominator... Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim240z Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Jon.....I agree, but if you look closer: Election year, and Bush's most staunch supporters are the far right Bible Belt conservatives..... The Head of the FCC was appointed by...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iskone Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Right now it's all Bush and his wacko's screwing things up. In 2005 it will be Carey and his wacko's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ericmendenhall Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Jon is correct in that BOTH major parties like to limit free speech that they don't like. If you really want to get charged up, research Campaign Finance Reform, one issue on which the NRA and Sierra Club agree is a bad trend. This limits politically oriented advertising for a few months before an election, effectively silencing the NRA and the Sierra Club when it matters most. I was surprised that this went through, after all, when the Founding Fathers decided to protect "free speech" they didn't mean for rap lyrics only, it was primarily to protect political free speech. When there is a "bipartisan effort", look out!, that means they've ganged up on us and we're really in for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iskone Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Yeah, stuff like that happens because people are sheep. If you don't agree read the Patriot act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPMS Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Personally, I think the world can use a little limiting. As a society, we seem to lack the strength of character to maintain any but the absolute lowest standard. When did class and common sense become attributes that we had to enforce through legal means? Shouldn't we have the good taste to moderate ourselves? We should, but we don't. Shock jocks and media personalities get their jollies by offending as many people as possible, while their idiotic "Beavis and Butthead" audiences sit back and chuckle, "huh, huh... he said 'boob'," and we watch society crumble around us while we shake our heads and ask where we went wrong. Doesn't anyone have any pride or self-respect anymore? If these morons can't stop themselves from trying to drag others into the cesspool with them, perhaps the federal government should assist them. I'm going to go eat my prunes now... Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-REX Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 the biggest societal erosion, in my opinion, is the long-lost theory of common sense, backed up by a very self-centered trend toward the few knowing what's best for many. the idea of tuning out to what offends is long gone... apparently all others should share the same levels of tolerance (or intolerance?) that drives those to try to sanitize the world we live in. personally, i agree with one's right to be offended, it's just as viable an emotion as any, and i find it hard to judge someone based simply on what they can or can't handle. but if this holds true, shouldn't these people who are so obsessed with social cleansing take some time out from being bothered by everything around them to realize that there are people out there with a different outlook than theirs, and that they have just as much of a right to that as they do to their own opinions? like george carlin once said, "don't these people realize that there are two knobs on the radio? or are they really that bothered by anything with two knobs sticking out of it?" along with freedom of speech comes freedom of choice. and any human being on this planet has the right to choose to avoid those situations that might offend them or conflict with their view of what is right or wrong. and it's not people like me standing in the way of people making that decision... it's themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-REX Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 ...and to add something else... my town in new york is 20 minutes north of new paltz, where green party mayor jason west has been openly performing same-sex marriages under much hassle from state lawmakers. i for one feel honored to live near a politician with a grip on basic human equality and support his efforts to the highest. really, it's all the same issue... neo-puritanism and countless other agendas that negate the simple set of values on which this country was founded. no room for any non-linear thought, or non-conformist ways of life, just a broad-based plan to put us all into simple to read non-threatening categories. kind of frightening, don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ericmendenhall Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Unfortunately, people do not agree on what constitutes common sense. One reason for this is that the same person thinks differently at 20, 40, and 60 years old. When I was 20 I thought Carlin was right about "just turning the knob". And he is right in some sense, that is, if i don't like the opinions on talk radio etc. But now that I have kids, I think more about their needs. There are some standards required for the "lowest common denominator", meaning kids for one thing. We have always expected that the PUBLIC airwaves adhere to standards during DAYTIME hours. All the cable channels can do what they want, right up to the Playboy channel, and even the public channels have less restrictions after 10:00 PM, and nobody is talking about changing that. Not Bush, not the FCC, nobody. It's the difference between a billboard and a magazine. If the public airwaves become unusable for much of the public, then they no longer serve a public purpose. But when I tune in to the Superbowl with my little kids, I have no way to predict that they will see an act in which a woman is forcibly disrobed. Now I have some expaining to do for my kids. (In my opinion, the act of a man pulling off a woman's shirt is much worse than a woman flashing herself, but somehow the feminist groups are silent on that.) Think about this: If I went down to the park and took my clothes off in front of a bunch of kids I would go to jail. Is the law against this restricting my rights? No. But if I posed naked in a magazine that's legal, because people CHOOSE to be exposed to it, and know what they're getting (although I can't imagine anyone would buy it!) Again the difference is between public and private. A final point: this is an election year. Believe nothing you read or hear, it's all like listening to one side of a messy divorce. Although this was a Gore-Lieberman issue before, when anything happens under Bush he will be portrayed as a book-burning Nazi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 I do nelieve that we as a people need to clean up ourt language. Before, you couldn't evben say "butt" but now they say "ass" and just about any other body part (Spike TV channel) then you got South Park with it's (*profanity). If these shows were on really late at night, likethey used to be, so kiddies wouldn't see it, I might not have much to say against, but these shows are on when the kids are watching, and I don't likethat. What kind of technologically advanced people ARE we?? We're so advance and sophiticated, that we degrade into using profanity to voice thoughts. Looks like we should have kids take "Profanity 101" in high school instead of English class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-REX Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 i'm 100% in agreement on the superbowl fiasco. sports are supposed to be a family-safe environment and that demeaned the entire event. when i talked about the erosion of common sense, i did mean both sides of the coin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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