TomsCoupe Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 what will my 240z run in the quarter with my stock LS1 and a r200 out back(still in the works)?? i have a ls1 out of a 99 camaro but im going to sall that to my buddy for his project(77 camaro) and i am going to look for a 99+ vette engine. it better run atleast low 13's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS1 Z Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 I'm doing the swap write now. I would think you will be in the 12's. I believe MAS280 is down to 11.4, slightly modified. See his video clip!! And I think Phantom is in the 12's. I will be there soon!! The Vette motor, the trans is mounted in the rear of the car. I believe a LS1 Camaro and Vette are the same animal. The difference in horse power on the two cars is the air intake. GOOD LUCK!! JOEY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love-my-V8-280Z Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 What HP are u guys running, Im installing a 270HP LT1 and would like to have a idea what my quarter mile would be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannji Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 LS1 Z, do you have a link for that video of MAS280's car? I cant find it on this sight, would like to see it if possible... thanks, tannji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsCoupe Posted April 20, 2004 Author Share Posted April 20, 2004 oh really, so can i bolt up the vette heads and intake and pretty much have a vette engine? Man, im so confused with these chevy engines. this is my first chevy engine. They have all been ford in the part. I think i need to do some research before i sell the engine huh oh yeah, i want to see the video too. all i have is the Darius Vid. Man, that car is nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl327 Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 I think that with a v8z conversion 12s should be the minimal et goal, personally I believe it to be a waste of time slower than that. Guys like Don Manzo and Mas280 are what I think the v8swap is all about, consistent 11s. Turbo L motors with "suicide" high boost setups and junkyard trannys are running 12s. You guys should be killing us, right? Ls1 or slightly modded Lt1s should be running low 12/11 ets with tuning and either a good auto or a good manual driver. After seeing what Boost can do, if I were to do another v8z it would HAVE to be 400rwhp and put it to the pavement, or I would personally feel bad about myself. I understand that for some of you that its a personal achievement to create a fine muscle car and I do respect that, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsCoupe Posted April 20, 2004 Author Share Posted April 20, 2004 anyone have any good sites for me to visit to catch up on the LS1 stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emo236 Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/ I'm getting parts together to do an LS1 conversion as well and this site along with the one above have been extremely helpful through learning about all this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwik240z Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 I am also in the process of doing the LS1 swap into my 240Z. Here is some of the info I found out about these motors. The LS1 in the F body cars (camaros and firebirds) are basically the same as the vette LS1. The LS1 came out in the vette in 1997 and in the F body cars in 1998. The vette claimed 345 HP and the F body 305HP. The ram air F body cars were making more. In 2001 the new Z06 came out with an improved block, better breathing cylinder heads, and improved intake and a hotter cam (know as the LS6) and made 385HP.In 2002 the Z06 was bumped up to 405HP. In 2001 and 2002 the F body cars were rated at 310HP and 325 for the ram air cars. All the 2001 and 2002 F body cars got the newer LS6 intake manifold but not the heads, block or cam. Phantoms car is has 1998 LS1 and 6 speed and has 311RWHP and ran 12.9 with a stock motor with headers and an improved air intake. This was on street tires. MAS280's car has a 1999 LS1 and an automatic and has 346RWHP and ran 11.4. The motor has a small cam, bigger headers (1 3/4" vs. 1 1/2") and a shift kit in the trans. He was running drag radials. MAS280 also had his car running at the track before with an LT1.This might help with the times. I know he is shooting for the 10's and I am sure he will get there. Check out LS1tech.com to find out all the easy HP upgrades available for this motor. 400RWHP is very easy to be had from a stock block without NOS. You really can't compare the LS1 Z car to a built up turbo 6 cylinder. Either you want the V8 or the turbo. For me, I'll have a V8 please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl327 Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 I think that with a v8z conversion 12s should be the minimal et goal' date=' personally I believe it to be a waste of time slower than that. Guys like Don Manzo and Mas280 are what I think the v8swap is all about, consistent 11s. Turbo L motors with "suicide" high boost setups and junkyard trannys are running 12s. You guys should be killing us, right?Ls1 or slightly modded Lt1s should be running low 12/11 ets with tuning and either a good auto or a good manual driver. After seeing what Boost can do, if I were to do another v8z it would HAVE to be 400rwhp and put it to the pavement, or I would personally feel bad about myself. I understand that for some of you that its a personal achievement to create a fine muscle car and I do respect that,[/quote'] V8? Been there, done that . All the cars named above are what I would consider the epitomy and the desired end product of the V8z conversion in terms of performance Afaik. I was not trying to say, hint, or posture that a v8z was not a worthwhile endeavor, thus the words from my previous post "I understand for some of you that its a personal achievement to create a find muscle car and I do respect that" describing what I believe to be the positive traits, and perhaps the standard upon which I look at the subject of the V8 conversion into a Zcar. By writing this I do not seek to judge, or cause one to deviate from their goal/plan/desires to do whatever it is they want to do to a Zcar, as the mission statement says: The members of HybridZ pride themselves on the friendly, open atmosphere in the forums. Ideas are not to be criticized, but listened to and courteously and thoughtfully responded to. The members of HybridZ are encouraged to handle themselves with the utmost respect for others and their ideas, and to educate others in a friendly manner if their experience can shed light on a topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS1 Z Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 O.k. guys I found MAS280'S vidio clip!!!!! Here it is enjoy!!!!!! http://www.beabulldog.com/LS1_280.WMV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Siddhartha Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Well, I have to make a decision soon. I need to choose whether I wanna install an (don't laugh) sr20det or a v8. This will affect what chassis I get. If I do the 8, I'm going to have to look for a totally straight chassis, but I can get the heavier 280z/x-ish chassis without worrying (TORQUE!!!!). If I go with the 4, I can settle for a slightly more rusted chassis (only slightly) b/c I won't have to worry about torquing the frame as much. I think that vid just decided for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwik240z Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Well, I have to make a decision soon. I need to choose whether I wanna install an (don't laugh) sr20det or a v8. This will affect what chassis I get. If I do the 8, I'm going to have to look for a totally straight chassis, but I can get the heavier 280z/x-ish chassis without worrying (TORQUE!!!!). If I go with the 4, I can settle for a slightly more rusted chassis (only slightly) b/c I won't have to worry about torquing the frame as much. I think that vid just decided for me... The Sr20DET is a great motor but not even close to an LS1 in power, reliability or driveability. If you want a turbo motor go with the rb motor. If you want a ripple free idle and gobs of torque go with the V8 enough said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Siddhartha Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Now I just gotta find a nice, straight, rust-free Z on a college student budget. Better bust out the ramen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwik240z Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Now I just gotta find a nice, straight, rust-free Z on a college student budget. Better bust out the ramen... Good decision. The LS1 is going to make you a happy Z owner. As for the ramen noodles when I was a starving student I used to frequesnt the local pubs for their happy hour buffet. You buy one drink, nurse it all night and fill up on all of the free food. Most of them had one dollar drafts for happy hour but I guess I am just showing my age by stating this. Best of luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Siddhartha Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 hmmm, hadnt thought of that, thats a good idea!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwik240z Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 hmmm, hadnt thought of that, thats a good idea!!! Alway glad to help starving students with z cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Siddhartha Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 ::starts long, depressing search for an affordable, non-rust bucket Z:: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsCoupe Posted April 20, 2004 Author Share Posted April 20, 2004 ::starts long, depressing search for an affordable, non-rust bucket Z:: dont settle. it took me almost a year before i found the right car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage42 Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 For all practical purposes, torque is king! HP is just the rate at which it does the work. I'd rather have my friend's 400 SBC 240Z with only 215 HP and 400 ft lbs at the wheels than 300+ HP and minimal torque. I've had hot 4 bangers, turbo 6s, and now gave into the fact that a hot V8 is the only way to go. I've submitted to the whole "No replacement for displacement" philosophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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