SHO-Z Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Here is a simple boost calulation for Superchargers, This does not allow for other losses. ((Super Charger Disp/(1/2 Engine Displacement)) * Ratio * 14.7) - 14.7 = Boost Pressure 3.5" Pulley on Eaton M62 Supercharger 1 Liter Capacity 2.8L engine 3.5" Pulley on Eaton M62 Supercharger 1 Liter Capacity Drive-------PS--------- Ratio Pulley----- Boost------ 3.5" 5----------- 0.3--------- 1.428571429 5.25--------1.05------- 1.5 5.5----------1.8-------- 1.571428571 5.75---------2.55------ 1.642857143 6------------3.3--------1.714285714 6.25------- 4.05------- 1.785714286 6.5----------4.8-------- 1.857142857 6.75---------5.55------ 1.928571429 7-------------6.3------- 2 7.25---------7.05------ 2.071428571 7.5-----------7.8------- 2.142857143 7.75----------8.55----- 2.214285714 8--------------9.3------ 2.285714286 8.25------- 10.05------ 2.357142857 8.5--------- 10.8------- 2.428571429 8.75--------11.55----- 2.5 9------------12.3------- 2.571428571 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimZ Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 That's a good general equation. Note that it assumes that the engine is operating at 100% volumetric efficiency. It's interesting to note that if your engine has less than 100% VE (i.e., it doesn't breathe very well), your resulting boost pressure will be higher than what the equation predicts. So, you should be able to use your measured boost pressure to give you a rough idea of what your VE actually is. Also, note that with this type of setup, for a given supercharger displacement and pulley ratio, the less boost you make, the more power you will have, since this indicates that the engine is breathing better, and the supercharger doesn't have to compress the air as much to achieve the flow rate dictated by the pulley ratio and blower displacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
280zedx Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Here's how i calculated my setup. It's pretty much the same result. Crank Pulley Circumferance = 17 7/8” S/C Pulley Circumferance = 8 1/16” Ratio = 2.217 / 1 @ 5800 rpm = 12,858 S/C rpm M62 supercharger output capacity = 1 L/ rpm = 12,858 L (LPM*.03531 = CFM) = 454 CFM of air 2.8 engine can inhale 285.6 CFM of air (cubic inches*RPM/3464) Excess air = 454 – 285.6 = 168.4 “boosted” CFM Boost = excess CFM / normal CFM * atmospheric pressure 168.4 / 285.6 * 14.7 = 8.7 pounds boost In reality i'm getting just over 6 at redline. I'm losing some through the intercooling and setup as well as other losses. Word of caution with too big of a crank pulley, a 2.5 ratio puts the supercharger rpm past it's "redline". You're formula comes out roughly the same for an M90 as well....19lbs boost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHO-Z Posted September 26, 2004 Author Share Posted September 26, 2004 Both calculations are real close for a 2.21 ratio. I have a 3.5" Diameter pulley on the Mercedes SLK supercharger and with the electic cluth would be difficult to change. It is good to know that the pulley size that I am looking at will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj280z Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Hey guys... This was really helpful... I just recently had a problem with my crank pulley. I'd like to hear what you guys have done to mount your crank pullies. Currently I have a 6 inch serpentine pulley that fits onto the front of a 77/78 crank pulley. I'm planning to start with a 2.75 inch blower pulley (2.18 ratio)... based on some quick calcs on my 3 liter motor it looks this will yield 6.7 pounds of boost. I'm using the MP62, and have had discussions with several folks who say this blower can be spun to 18,000 rpms... I'll probably have a smaller blower pulley made to test this... (my calcs say that the 2.61 ratio will yield 10.87 psi) I'd love to hear what you have done! I might need a better crank pulley option so please share what you've done and if ya have an extra I'd consider buying one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
premo-s12 Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 hey guys, just want to make sure i have this right. im trying to find out my boost with a 2.1 ratio. its an eaton m90 and im going off those specs down below. SC: 5800rpm * 2.1 = 520'ish cfm? VG: 5800rpm = 306cfm Excess air: 520 - 306 = 214 boost: (214 / 306) * 14.7 = 10.28psi that look about right? this is with a vg30e by the way eaton m90 specs: http://www.automotive.eaton.com/product/engine_controls/superchargers/M90.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ZFury Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 If you are really worried about CFM. Get one of these. http://www.toolexperts.com/Airflow/Airflow_and_Wind_Meters/Page_1/CFM.html If not, just guesstamate. It produces enough for your car. Just use BOV to meter the PSI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHO-Z Posted August 28, 2006 Author Share Posted August 28, 2006 I get the same boost using the original calc. Have fun on the project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
premo-s12 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 sweet. thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonZ Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Any update on this project? I'm looking at a mercedes supercharger for my project as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHO-Z Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 Just got thru the AZ summer and will start working in the garage now. Really do not have anything done in that we are also selling our house and do not want to have the Z half done then take it on a road trip. Will keep everyone informed on the progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy mason Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 was wondering if you had more pics of the Green z I am in the proses of the same thing sore no pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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