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do i have the right camshaft?


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hey guys, got a problem over here. some guys on zcar.com think i have the wrong camshaft...

 

i just got done building my engine. N42 combo overbored .020, matched dished pistons and rings, new valves, port and polish, all that sort of stuff. anywho, i put a stage 3 camkit from MSA in her, and some guys are saying the car wont run good with that cam on a 8.4:1 engine...what do yall think? i talked to eddie radatz (southern z guy) and he said it should work fine, but i wanted a mass opnion...perhaps i should switch to a stage 2 kit before i turn the engine over and run the cam?

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Big cams bleed off compression... If you really have 8.4:1 (no one really knows, not even you) you'll be down into the 7's. You can kill an engine in a big big hurry if you have too much cam with no compression. This thing will be a sogy dog down low, and it will be no fun in everyday stop and go driving. I'm not just saying this because I want you to sell me your cam way cheap, but because it's the right thing to do, before it's too late!

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Big cams bleed off compression, AT LOWER RPM. At the design rpm range volumetric efficiency is as good or better than a stock/mild cam. Your setup will work, but a much higher CR is of course possible with that cam. I think a more pertinent question is will your FI setup breathe enough to take advantage of the cam at higher rpm. If not, you're sacrificing low-end with the cam but not getting the benefit up top.

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Is that the cam with a split profile, like 460 lift and 260/270 duration? If so that cam was always pretty finiky about what kind of head I used, and it really liked a shaved E88, which had combustion chambers like an E31. I ran it with an open chamber E88, and it ran pretty poorly, even with a flat top 280 bottom end. I also ran it in a p79 milled 80 thous. and it ran prety good there.

 

If your cam is larger, I think you will want some compression to make it run to its potential. I liked the MSA cam that is 274 duration and 480 lift or whatever, its milder then the one I listed above. It always ran good in any engine/head combo I ever tried, and with a nice high compression 2.6, it would turn 7500 rpms with my triples and header.

 

I got froggy one time and put the first cam in my turbo engine, man it sounded good, but it wouldn't fall out of a tree.

 

You can always snatch your head off and mill it some, probably be a good idea to check with Norm and see how much he thinks would be safe for you.

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Years and years ago. And way before the internet. I used a dish piston L28 with an E31 head, SU's, 6 into one header, 2.5" exhaust, 5 spd, 2+2 clutch, R200 3.90 gear, holley electric pump, and a 290/.500" clifford research cam 6=8, in a 71 240. And the engine pulled hard after 3500 and pulled up to 7K rpms. It ran low 14's at over 100 mph.

 

Thinking back......that was a low compression set up also and it ran pretty good with a big cam. A lot of ignition timing will help and advance the cam.

 

IMHO

A big cam in a low compression L28 engine:

Will not work so well with a stock EFI manifold

Will not work so well with a 3.54 gear.

Will not work so well with a heavy car.

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