JSM Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Is there any difference in the 6A and the 6AL? Mine worked perfect right from the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ryce Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I'm not sure, Ive got the 8920 adapter. However I still do not know if I need the 6A or 6AL to go with it. Still looking for that answer. But if its working for you then why worry about it right haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSM Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I sold the car awhile ago but i have this knack for totally hosing electronics. In this case it workd exactly as described. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ryce Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 I still would like to know if I need the msd 6al. I have the tach adapter 8920. From reading the first post it doesn't say. Just says the tach adapter 8920. However when looking at the instructions provided with the adapter it shows a msd 6al as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ryce Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Looks like step three is where he is talkibg about hooking it up to the 6al? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewZed Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 If you read through the MSD site you'll see that the 6AL is essentially the same as the 6A except for the addition of some rev limiters and internal upgrades. That's why the 6A is NLA. But the external wiring is exactly the same (Page 4 of the instructions for both the 6201 and 6425 is identical). The instructions for the 8910 and the 8921 show that the ignition control used doesn't really matter, it's the tach type that determines which to use. And, for anyone that wanted to dig deeper, it really looks like the 8910 is just a condenser/capacitor in a fancy package, and the 8921 is just a small amplifier. Probably why some people get their early tachs to work by adding a few more loops to the circuit in the tach. You get a stronger magnetic field with more current or more windings. http://www.msdignition.com/instructiondownload.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ryce Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 So I need to get wither the 6a or the 6al to work with the 8920 tach adapter? Also had a question of that wire to wire to a positive 12v when key is turned on. I was gonna wire it to the temp sensor cause that's a 12v source and when key is on. Does that seem like it will work? In a little bit I may be able to post pictures. So far I've been trying to do this with only the 8920 adapter but if I'm reading right new zed is saying I need either the 6al or the 6a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ryce Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Could I just get a new distributor, and tachometer. hook that up and my msd coil and not need the adapter at all? Obviously I would want to match the distributor triger to the tachometer pick ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ryce Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Also I think if the OP added pictures that would help alot! Just a thought to help others down the road too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) 3ryce, what exactly are you trying to do? You haven't provided any information on your ignition system. Why do you think you need a tach adapter? The fact that you're asking if you need an MSD 6AL to use a tach adapter tells me you need to stop and do a lot of reading before you go any further. You need a tach adapter if you have an MSD 6AL. You don't add an MSD 6AL because you have a tach adapter. Or, are you asking if the tach adapter only works with the 6AL? I can't tell. Also, no, you can't use the temperature sensor wire as a 12V source. Nigel Edited July 26, 2013 by Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ryce Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) Ok I am sorry I have not mentioned in previous post that I have a msd blaster 2 ignition coil. I thought I had, was prob somewhere else. Tach works, however not with the msd ignition coil. Im just trying to get my tach to work. Ive got a 6/73 240z. 4 speed. I have the 8920 adapter, I cant tell if I need the 6A with it or not. I also just saw the 6AL 2. Looks pretty nifty. Edited July 26, 2013 by 3ryce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Does the blaster 2 require the ballast resistor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ryce Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Thats a good question. I guess I could just unhook it. Where would I connect the wires to? Or would I just cap them off and leave them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ryce Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) I've seen other setups with the resistor and msd coils. After some rereading this somemore. Ive gathered that I need the 6A/AL for one way to make the tach work. Im looking for other solutions. Thats what im trying to ask for. I do not have the OG coil either. Edited July 30, 2013 by 3ryce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollyon12 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Connect the end of the white wire (red arrow) to the red wire from the adapter. Splice the other end to the hot wire already connected to the tach. It doesn't matter which end of the white wire is connected were. It works both ways. This is a '71 tach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ryce Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Apollyon, is that using the 8920 tach adapter only or the 8920 with the 6AL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollyon12 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) If you don't have an Multi Spark Discharge box (MSD 6AL, Crane Hi-6S, ect) you don't need the adapter. You only have an aftermarket coil, so it should be wired up the same as OEM and your tach should work properly. Somewhere along the line, your tach is not getting any type of signal from the coil. You need to go thru your wiring and figure out what isn't hooked up properly. You don't need to go out and buy an MSD box to make it work. You could, but unless you are building a racing motor you don't need it and it would just be a waste of money. Edited August 29, 2013 by Apollyon12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermanpete Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) He (3ryce) posted on another forum that he had a bad tach (and it was a 3-wire tach too boot.) Edited August 30, 2013 by beermanpete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eds240z Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Hope someone can help!! I have a 73 240z with L28, Malory unllite, msd coil (that requires no ballast). Tach is working fine. I installed 6al now no tach. So I been reading through threads and found I need a tach adaptor. I installed the msd 8920 and now everything works... So I think!! At idle it works. Rev it up it works!! Redline it still works!!! Problem occurs once I start driving. I would take off and tach seems to work fine than once I get up to speed and change gears it would go back up normally than just drop to zero and stay there till I'm almost to a complete stop. When it drops to zero it's not at any specific rpm or speed. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermanpete Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Hope someone can help!! I have a 73 240z with L28, Malory unllite, msd coil (that requires no ballast). Tach is working fine. I installed 6al now no tach. So I been reading through threads and found I need a tach adaptor. I installed the msd 8920 and now everything works... So I think!! At idle it works. Rev it up it works!! Redline it still works!!! Problem occurs once I start driving. I would take off and tach seems to work fine than once I get up to speed and change gears it would go back up normally than just drop to zero and stay there till I'm almost to a complete stop. When it drops to zero it's not at any specific rpm or speed. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks!! Ed, Check the charging system. Specifically, look for over-charging. A high voltage condition while driving could be upsetting the tach or 8920. If the charging system checks ok the next likely suspects are the 8920 and the tach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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