jvanen Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Has anyone Looked into possibly putting Electric brakes or electric clutch braking systems on their Z? I know it may sound crazy . But We may be missing out on some good tunability and hey I Know I'd do a double take if I saw a car with no visable brakes : . I did a search but found nothing on it thanks john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo_fb Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 I got me a electronic brake apmlifier from a VW Corrado which I hope to use. Only problem is that it is quite long so not sure it will fit. Might have to dent the inner fender. It has a clutch system on it to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvanen Posted February 9, 2006 Author Share Posted February 9, 2006 yeah I've been looking at various Industrial applications some are sealed some are for high heat and torque, and I can't help but wonder why not a Z? And with them being electric you could really do some tricky stuff on in cabin controls etc etc. Maybe even something to help on cornering....but then again thats crazy talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proxlamus© Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 if your battery disconnects or looses charge while driving... (ie bad battery etc) well your screwed... and if the electric solenoid poops out.. well.. same idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nope Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 haha. way to kick an idea in the nuts. funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo_fb Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 if your battery disconnects or looses charge while driving... (ie bad battery etc) well your screwed... and if the electric solenoid poops out.. well.. same idea If the battery goes dead you will only have a harder pedal to push. Much like if you pop your vacuum hose to the original braking amplifier. It is used on cars that are sold today, and I dont think they would allow cars that lost their brakes when battery gone dead that on the road. But the clutch would go dead if the clutch hose breaks. That has happened to my vw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proxlamus© Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 No no... cars today don't have 100% electric brakes.. they still have hydrolic brakes with the AID of electronic solenoids etc.... IF your entire brake setup was electric, and the battery went dead, your saying push the pedal harder?? ummm.. no.. if it's electric and "throttle by wire" or simply hooked up to electrical wires to a solenoid, I don't care how hard you push, the solenoid will NOT move... it's electricity that moves the solenoid. But yes.. even a VW Passat for example has an electric e-brake and cars with ABS have .. thats right.. electric aid... So a car with NO hydrolic system, and entirely electric brakes would be awful. Magnetic brakes on the other hand ... *hmm* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okimoto Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 if your battery disconnects or looses charge while driving... (ie bad battery etc) well your screwed... and if the electric solenoid poops out.. well.. same idea Does that assume the ignition system and fuel pump will run on the flux capicator while the battery discharges? There's always the emergency brake in that situation... much like if you were to run over a chunk of metal on a car with both left and right brake lines under one side of the body. There's a rail under my dad's saturn... if we jump the curb wrong or land hard on a parking bump stop, it will smash both left and right rear brake lines, and cause a tandem failure. (unless the proportioning valve or some sort of check valve system is installed) I think alot of unibody cars are like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240ZR Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Funny story.........Never mind... just rember check your E brake cable.......... and becareful what fluid you put into your breaks..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-Z Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Now are you guys talking about electronic brake assisted or pure electronic brakes. I know they make electronic drum braks for like trailers and stuff, but I don't think that it would be a good idea for the actual vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvanen Posted February 23, 2006 Author Share Posted February 23, 2006 I was talking about going pure electric, ( yeah I know I'd have to have some sort of back up) But for the sake of improving possible braking and handling... just seeing what I/we can come up with and to see if anyone else has researched it thoroughly before I really jump in. I know that there are quite a few heavy industrial applications I was thinking in more of a electromagnetic multi- clutch type system. where they are used taking high torque and heat over and over again. they have completely sealed versions as well and they make them to suit size etc etc in whatever need you have. nothing wrong with Looking right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proxlamus© Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 magnetic brakes are freakn cool.. AK-Z your 100% correct, trailers do use electric brakes.. My impression of this thread is for purely electric brakes.. which would be a no no.. bad bad idea Many many newer cars now use electronically assisted brakes... which would use an electric solenoid to push on the master cylinder, or even a solenoid on the actual caliper which would "aid" in addition to the hydrolic brakes, but i don't see the advantage of that.. except.. umm... i have no idea.. longer master cylinder life? haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvanen Posted February 24, 2006 Author Share Posted February 24, 2006 LOL yeah very nice. What has me thinking is the whole clutch pack Idea. they basically look like clutch packs that you would pull out of an Auto tranny of course much more heavy duty and you could put them around your half shafts instead of having them in the wheel or whatever. Not that improving the Unsprung weight is the edge I need in my driving but....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-Z Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 LOL yeah very nice. What has me thinking is the whole clutch pack Idea. they basically look like clutch packs that you would pull out of an Auto tranny of course much more heavy duty and you could put them around your half shafts instead of having them in the wheel or whatever. Not that improving the Unsprung weight is the edge I need in my driving but....... My thought is that if they have used it on race vehicles then it would be used in at least one production car by now. I know some custom cars have the disk brakes located on the half axle (at least on the flange) right next to the differential. I know that semis use pnuematic brakes that also flows to the trailer brake system. I think that would be a better solution, but not so reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjo046 Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Not only custom cars have the rear disc brakes right next to the differential, so does the Jaguar E-type(At least the series 1) and the Alfa Romeo GTV 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvanen Posted March 1, 2006 Author Share Posted March 1, 2006 Yeah they say the clamping pressure is harder to control with air brakes but they are fine for big applications where brute strength is needed more than Finesse/ precision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cygnusx1 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Electric Brakes and a Parachute backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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