I can,t believe the stuff I see at times..

[grumpyvette]

I can,t believe the stuff I see at times..in the car mags that are SUPPOSED to be articles composed by guys who know what they are doing!!!!!!!

 

I picked up a copy of one of the more comon, chevy based magazines and theres PICTURES of a guy dipping head bolts in yellow weather strip adhesive to be used as a thread sealant on the bolt threads (its not designed to come in direct contact with oil and/or high heat coolant),and its not going to give the correct tq readings either, and on the next page the guys gooping, GOBS of clear silicone like youll use to seal aquariums or bathroom fixtures 1/4 thick on/around the intake manifold ports, NEITHER SEALANT is DESIGNED FOR or is LIKELY to perform correctly IN EITHER APPLICATION, and WHERE does this guy think all that excess silicone will go once the intakes torqued down????

theres only two high probabilitys, it will flow into the port where it will eventually harden and get sucked into the cylinders or it may hang there causing a restriction in the port, or if it flows down, it gets into the lifter gallery where its eventually going to get into the oil pump pick up screen, restricting or blocking oil flow

i would not let these guys fix a flat tire let alone work on MY ENGINES all I can do is shake my head and wonder who if ANYONE screens these articles

[Bartman]

What thread sealant would you recommend for head bolts (Of course I'm talking about head bolts that require thread sealant in the first place)?

[grumpyvette]

always use the manufacturers suggested installation instructions, as some applications or gasket types REQUIRE differant lubes or sealants but heres a rought guide

 

 

head bolts #5, dip clean dry thread in http://www.permatex.com/products/automotive/automotive_gasketing/gasket_sealants/auto_Permatex_High_Tack_Gasket_Sealant.htm

then insert and tq heads in place

BTW this will work also

http://www.permatex.com/products/automotive/automotive_gasketing/gasket_sealants/auto_Permatex_High_Tack_Gasket_Sealant.htm

 

head gaskets #3

main bolts #2

rod bolts #2

oil pump stud and nut #4

oil pan bolts #5

oil pan gasket #6

cam spocket bolts #4

timing cover gasket #6

timing cover bolts #1

intake bolts #1

intake gasket #6

thermostat housing bolts #5

thermostat housing gasket (also do you really need it) usually yes #6

Exhaust manifold/header bolts #1

Exhaust manifold/header gaskets #3

Water pump bolts #5

water pump gaskets #6

fuel pump #6

crank/damper bolt #1

Torque converter bolts #4

flywheel/flexplate bolts #4

bellhousing bolts #2

 

1 antiseize

2 oil or ARP thread lube

3 copper coat spray gasket sealer or apply dry in some cases (see manufactures suggestions)

4 loctite (red or blue depends on application ,read the lables)

5 http://www.permatex.com/products/automotive/automotive_gasketing/gasket_sealants/auto_Permatex_High_Tack_Gasket_Sealant.htm

6 black high temp RTV

 

use the correct stuff for the application, AND READ & FOLLOW THE DIRRECTIONS it prevents PROBLEMS

 

http://www.permatex.com/products/automotive/automotive_gasketing/gasket_sealants.htm

[grumpyvette]

 

this is the stuff they were actually using with a caulking gun no less, so they could get GOBS OF SEALANT EVERYWHERE

[fastzcars]

Bartman, ARP also makes a teflon thread sealant made for head bolts, It saids on the tube that it's specially made so that you get the correct torque reading's.

[A. G. Olphart]

But Grumpy, magazines are written by authors (not mechanics) and sold as entertainment. Just look how thoroughly entertained you have been... Isn't a magazine that twists a person's crank that quickly worth what was paid?

 

It is no worse than what passes for the reporting of news.

 

Damn... That says a lot about our society.

 

 

 

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[Paz8]

Better yet are those TV shows building bikes, you know American C*opper, the only person that can spin wrenches is the employee, the other family members have no mechanical ability at all. Well lets fire up this bike, the drama builds, the bike starts without a single puff of smoke out the pipes, who are they kidding??

[Bartman]

But Grumpy' date=' magazines are written by authors (not mechanics) and sold as entertainment. Just look how thoroughly entertained you have been... Isn't a magazine that twists a person's crank that quickly worth what was paid?

 

It is no worse than what passes for the reporting of news.

[/quote']The problem is that this isn't just sold as entertainment, it's sold to be a reference for people who want to do the same or similar projects. Readers are led to believe that the authors of these articles are "experts" and that they can follow the instructions and procedures documented in these articles.

 

Who knows how many people will now use weatherstrip adhesive as thread sealant and silicone caulking on their intake ports?

 

BTW - I won't even touch your analogy to the news, because that would start dipping into politics.

[Pop N Wood]

Hey! That's pretty good caulk! I used about 10 tubes of it when I built my sunroom.

[Guest tony78_280z]

That's pretty good caulk!

Say that a lot don't you? Now we know what "Pop N Wood" stands for.

 

Sorry I couldn't resist!

[v80z]

Thanks Grump

Preciate IT