staledale Posted July 12, 2001 Share Posted July 12, 2001 can you swap the entire 280zx rear and supports lug nut to lug nut under a 72Z ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted July 12, 2001 Share Posted July 12, 2001 don't know, but the 240SX is another rear assembly that comes out as a complete subframed unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Motorsports Ltd Posted July 12, 2001 Share Posted July 12, 2001 nothing much desirable about a 280zx rearend...240z is a superior backend for suspension design......although 240sx back end (4 link?) is VERY well engineered and been eyed up by a few.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted July 12, 2001 Share Posted July 12, 2001 ???? What rear did the 240SX come with? r200 viscous? I didn't know it came out as a subframe unit, probably narrow too... Hmmmm.. Regards, Lone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted July 12, 2001 Share Posted July 12, 2001 It's not too narrow. I've got a '92 SX, and width is not a problem. An R200 comes in it, and from what I understand from the 240SX.org site, it is the same "short" case that the 300ZX/J30/ cases have. But only the superhicas and ABS options have the VLSD, which I have not been able to find even after several years of looking. Also, it comes with a 4.10 ratio, which for me, is a little low, even with an OD. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staledale Posted July 12, 2001 Author Share Posted July 12, 2001 Don't know my Z's yet, but dosen't the 280zx have the r200, cv joints, and the disk brake set up, that everyone talks about swapping,or do I have the wrong model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scca Posted July 12, 2001 Share Posted July 12, 2001 all ZX are R2 diffs. only turbo cars are CV shaft. all ZX are rear disk. it wont be worth the effort to try to fit in to early Z.. convert the rears to disk and forget the rest- the CV can be done ala Scotty type adapters or it will bolt in with a combo of parts- do a search for this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeromio Posted July 12, 2001 Share Posted July 12, 2001 I have the CVs in my 240 without an adaptor. 240Z stubs are the same dia. and spline count as the 280ZXt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted July 12, 2001 Share Posted July 12, 2001 quote: Originally posted by blueovalz: But only the superhicas and ABS options have the VLSD, which I have not been able to find even after several years of looking. Also, it comes with a 4.10 ratio, which for me, is a little low, even with an OD. Terry Thanks Terry... Darn, I was getting pretty excited for a moment.... Agreed, 4.10 isn't the direction I'm wanting to go... I'm still looking at the Tbird/Mustang IRS because of the gears and availability and price but the search goes on, I have plenty of time anyway, this is a future endeavor... Regards, Lone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staledale Posted July 13, 2001 Author Share Posted July 13, 2001 Mike said the ZX TURBO rearends would be R200, cv, and rear disk, What's wrong with that? can it be swaped as a complete unit, with a few mounting changes for an early Z? Would it be worth it? thanks then agian how bout the 300zx !!!!!!! anything thing better about it ? [ July 13, 2001: Message edited by: staledale ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pparaska Posted July 13, 2001 Share Posted July 13, 2001 The 280ZX suspension design is not as good for handling as the 240-280Z. I don't think it would be an easy swap either, as the track is wider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted July 13, 2001 Share Posted July 13, 2001 The individual parts are easier to swap than the "whole" assembly if you include the struts and the lower control arms (different geometry than the Z with different mounting points). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staledale Posted July 13, 2001 Author Share Posted July 13, 2001 Pete, how much wider, front wheel drive wheel offset wider??? I'm putting a complete frame under my Z. Might just go 12 bolt. I'm not into road courses that much. Looking for weight vs cost times easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted July 13, 2001 Share Posted July 13, 2001 Thanks for the picture and info on the Cv's Scottie! Appreciate it. Yeah, if the ratio's are already in it, not a problem. I can get the whole unit like pictured for about 450.00, with Raxels CV's thats getting to be just about a grand (which is already expensive, but doable at some point), but if I had to add R and P and setup then yeah I totally agree, its getting way too expensive. 2.73 is way to numerically low for me as well, 3.08 or so would be better. I'll let you know if I find anything else suitable, I'm thinking theres a solution out there just waiting to be discovered.. Thanks, Lone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pparaska Posted July 13, 2001 Share Posted July 13, 2001 I'm not sure of the track difference, but it's not huge. But if you just want a tough drag setup, I'd look into a 4 link setup like some here have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie-GNZ Posted July 14, 2001 Share Posted July 14, 2001 Lone, the Ford 8.8 IRS is still an option for me. However, I spoke with Marty (sp?) at Raxles and he sells new HD 1.5" CVs for them at $500/pr! What I do not have is a list showing what vehicles came with what ratio. I know most of the T-Birds had a 2.73:1 and that is too tall. I know we can get these for a resonable price but if you have to cough up $500 for CVs, then also have to get a R&P and have it setup, it could get pricey. Keep us informed on whatever you find out. Here is another good pic of that complete unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted July 16, 2001 Share Posted July 16, 2001 Now, I may be wrong, (usually have been on here), but if one was to be going with a T56 tranny, wouldn't a 4.10 axle be PERFECT? get a great launch, but then hit that .5:1 6th gear and loaf along, right? Or am I dreaming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted July 17, 2001 Share Posted July 17, 2001 Depends on your motor IMHO. If it can rev to 6K or 6.5K it would help in first gear (mine is pretty much done by 5k). Otherwise the T56's first gear feels pretty short to me and thats with a 3.54 rear end, a 4.11 would wind out pretty darn quick. I can start easily in second right now with 15 inch tires in a 55 series profile. I think it was geared that way to get the fat f bodies rolling, not a problem with the Z though... Regards, Lone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl327 Posted July 17, 2001 Share Posted July 17, 2001 4.11s would be great, but you gotta match your combo... rearend to gears to cam to body weight of the car, yada yada yada..... or else youll be slower..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLKMGK Posted July 18, 2001 Share Posted July 18, 2001 Scottie - R&P setup shoudl be no more than $150 tops. That's what all of th eshops here charge all day long on th e8.8. As for gears - I can get you a set of 3.08 pretty easily I think and a 3.27 wouldn't be too bad either I'm thinking. 3.27 is just a little harder to find is all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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