GOTHALOSISM Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 I found a newer product that is good for undercoating or doing the engine bay. Its lighter than rhino liner and it sprays on easy and it cleans up with soap and water if so needed. Its called lizard skin. Check it out. I'll be using it when I get around to puting my Z on a rotisserie. Thats my 2 cents for today. You can prob also tint it any color if so needed. Not sure on that yet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Kind of a pain to work with from what I've seen. you need to get a special gun and hose to apply it. I think that its one of those things that is better off having a shop do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ls1Hybridz Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 If any of you guys have heard of POR15, it works great as an undercoating as well as a rust converter. It cost about 45 for a quart and is ready to spray. POR15 reacts with oxygen so it hardens fast and extremely hard so that it doesnt chip away. Most automotive paint stores have it in stock or can order it. I work for Sherwin Williams Automotive Finishes and i keep it in stock and can have more ordered in about a day so its pretty easy to access. It can be sprayed put of an ordinary gun with no problems but you have to clean the gun right away so it doesn't harden to fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschiltz Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 ls1Hybridz, search for POR15 and you'll get enough info to make your head explode. Also, go back and read all the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJLamberson Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 ls1Hybridz, search for POR15 and you'll get enough info to make your head explode. Also, go back and read all the rules. What rules were broken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getZ Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I've used lizard skin twice, once for cutting part of the spare wheel well and another time to coat the frame rail caps. It sound proofs, protects and insulates as well as being much lighter than regular undercoating. I rolled it on underneath, but it leaves a crude finish like undercoat. I've seen people spray it on and it comes out like bed liner, not super smooth, but even. The downside is it is expensive. The ceramic insulator plus gun is going to run you about $350, but there is enough stuff to probably do a couple of cars. You can also paint the stuff when you are finished for a real finished look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I've used lizard skin twice, once for cutting part of the spare wheel well and another time to coat the frame rail caps. It sound proofs, protects and insulates as well as being much lighter than regular undercoating. I rolled it on underneath, but it leaves a crude finish like undercoat. I've seen people spray it on and it comes out like bed liner, not super smooth, but even. The downside is it is expensive. The ceramic insulator plus gun is going to run you about $350, but there is enough stuff to probably do a couple of cars. You can also paint the stuff when you are finished for a real finished look. Also, you have to have it heated before applying. I think its redundant if you have enough for a couple cars when you're just needing to apply one car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ls1Hybridz Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 bschulitz, ive used POR15 and i love the product. i know alot about it and can answer any questions that anybody has on it. what i love about it is that it can be sprayed on or rolled on and it comes in flat, semi-gloss, or gloss black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschiltz Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Well my foot is nicely placed in my mouth, so I'd like to apologize, ls1. I didn't read your whole post and just assumed that you were some newb who heard about this magic POR15 stuff that cures all rust or whatever. Sorry to jump to conclusions and welcome to HybridZ, by the way. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getZ Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Also, you have to have it heated before applying. I think its redundant if you have enough for a couple cars when you're just needing to apply one car. You don't have to heat it if the air temp is warm enough. I applied it at 60 degrees and it went on fine. Of course, here in Phoenix the day times highs never really get that cold. It would have been nice if they sold it in smaller quantities, but after using it, I'm really happy with it and am glad I have enough to do the entire interior of my camaro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ls1Hybridz Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 its ok bschiltz it happens. i would suggest this to anyone who is new to the painting side of automotive since its a fairly user friendly product Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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