Dirt114 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 i can get ahold of the above. my question is, for the 2000 ls1 out of a firebird, what kind of WHEEL hp could i expect if i put this in my z32? also what do you all think of the price? im a newb when it comes to anything other than nissan so idk much about the ls1 other than its light as ♥♥♥♥ and has the range of power i think i would be happy with. im also wondering how easy it is to add power to this motor for relatively cheap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtGT4g63 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 i can get ahold of the above. my question is, for the 2000 ls1 out of a firebird, what kind of WHEEL hp could i expect if i put this in my z32? also what do you all think of the price? im a newb when it comes to anything other than nissan so idk much about the ls1 other than its light as ♥♥♥♥ and has the range of power i think i would be happy with. im also wondering how easy it is to add power to this motor for relatively cheap? Thats a good price. I'm not sure if the 2000 came with the LS6 intake, but if so then you can expect to see anywhere from 315 - 325 at the wheels. Some guys get stronger motors then others. And of course if you add headers, exhaust, intake, cam, you can expect to get more. Theres plenty of info on here of mods, and what people have used. My car for instance, has shorty headers, 2.5" dual - 3.5" single exhaust, a torquer V2. cam. and 243 casting heads. Dyno'd 411hp 380tq. headers were 400$, exhaust was roughly 300$, cam was 250$ used, and the heads were 525$ shipped. 1500$ for roughly 100hp increase isn't too bad, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janaka Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 2000s didn't have the LS6 intake on them. I'd say aroudn 300rwhp -320 depending on headers and exhaust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt114 Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 ok not the best but compared to my na z thats awesome. what i really need is a line on what needs done. aka, where to get the t56 or anything else that would work?, do i need custom ecu or stock firebird ecu?, will headers fit enough so that all i have to custom make are test pipes? im kinda a noob and dont have the means without guidance.. i think i spelled that wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt114 Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 Thats a good price. I'm not sure if the 2000 came with the LS6 intake, but if so then you can expect to see anywhere from 315 - 325 at the wheels. Some guys get stronger motors then others. And of course if you add headers, exhaust, intake, cam, you can expect to get more. Theres plenty of info on here of mods, and what people have used. My car for instance, has shorty headers, 2.5" dual - 3.5" single exhaust, a torquer V2. cam. and 243 casting heads. Dyno'd 411hp 380tq. headers were 400$, exhaust was roughly 300$, cam was 250$ used, and the heads were 525$ shipped. 1500$ for roughly 100hp increase isn't too bad, no? ok, i know with most turbo cars, upping power means less low end, more top end. so will i have similar effect on an ls1 or will i only be upping th mid range? ultimately, id RATHER lose a tiny bit of grunt for top end with the ls1 cuz thats what im used to and i think it would be easier to drive and more fun than overwhelming power too fast then feeling it trail off before the shift... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janaka Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 the ls1's have gobs of torque down low, throwing a cam in will raise the peak hp higher into the RPM range but you will still have power in all gears (esp compared to an NA zx)my power comes in at around 3500 and pulls till 6800+ (use proper valvetrain upgrades to spin past 6200 or so) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt114 Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 ^are these valve train upgrades expensive? where is a common source for cheap ls1 parts? id like to have it be able to rev to 7000 rpm and have the peak be around 6k rpm that way it will feel like my na only way stronger. and i can use my stock tack the turns red at 7k rpm lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janaka Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 cheap IMO. I think around $150 for springs and pushrods is what I spent (used) valvesprings, pushrods and away you go. roller rockers if you want to get fancy (i didn't, most don't). ls1tech.com will be your friend. I have bought ALL my aftermarket LS1 parts from the classifieds on that site and have not been let down once. most people won't recommend spinning to 7k, its just not needed. If you DO want to spin that high then definately pull the pan and replace the rod botls with ARP units as they are said to be the 'weak point' when going that high up the rpm band after the stock valvetrain is upgraded. My peak RWHP is at 6800rpm, I never shift there on the street and there is plenty of power from 3500-6k in 1-4th gears. It pulls like a raped ape. Going from 6th to 4th on the highway and hammering it enduces squirely rear end syndrom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt114 Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 damn. would NEVER think of my z doing that in fourth... it barely wheel hops 2nd gear... what is yours? what car is it in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I hope you know the seller - 900$ is about what stolen LS1s go for. (Assuming it's not really high mileage, and doesn't have anything wrong with it.) If it's legit, get it - if you don't need it, you can double your money by flipping it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt114 Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 ^good friend of mine is in mississipi helping his temporarily paralyzed uncle since a motorcycle accident. his uncle and uncles friends who are his dads friends are all drag guys. well one of these guys my friend know and who is supposedly a real good guy has a 2000 firebird and is selling the motor cuz hes upgrading to an ls6. so i guess hes not in a possition where he needs a lot of money. my friend told me i should get it. so he used his judgement that it was a great deal and called me in ohio to jump on it. if the purpose was to ♥♥♥♥ someone over, i proby wouldnt be pulled into the picture. it is only the motor tho, no tranny. just wiring harness is included. it has 83k miles i think is what he said. so i was gonna ask, what makes the z's tranny impossible with it? whats the cheapest tranny rout that i can take with this thats manual? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janaka Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 My motor is out of a 2000 WS6- put into my '76 280z. Definately get the T56 from the Fbody cars. Having double overdrive for the highay (6th gear) is awesome. I have 3.90:1 gears and at 80MPH i'm at like 2000rpm or so only. I don't know if a Z tranny would hold the power for long. I'm sure you can pick up a cheap tranny on ls1tech or ebay or a wrecker to mate to the motor. How much is your total budget to do this build? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt114 Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 well since i could have all the tt swap parts for under 5k from z1 id say deff under that. hell i was hoping to spend under 1k for the tranny and close to no labor until the wiring... but idk if thats gonna happen. the main reason i wanted this was to save money. but after looking arund im not sure if ill be able to keep my interior shape after grinding for the tranny... unless i can make a z tranny possible.. i would spend money to get a built one from z1 if i could connect the two.. i heard somewhere that its impossible... what all does it take to match a tranny to a motor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtGT4g63 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 well since i could have all the tt swap parts for under 5k from z1 id say deff under that. hell i was hoping to spend under 1k for the tranny and close to no labor until the wiring... but idk if thats gonna happen. the main reason i wanted this was to save money. but after looking arund im not sure if ill be able to keep my interior shape after grinding for the tranny... unless i can make a z tranny possible.. i would spend money to get a built one from z1 if i could connect the two.. i heard somewhere that its impossible... what all does it take to match a tranny to a motor? Save yourself the trouble and just buy a T56, and make it fit. T56's are awesome, insanely strong, shift when you want 'em to, transmissions. I have seen them for sale on LS1 tech for average price of 1,000$ - 1,200$ for a good used one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt114 Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 i agree. at this point ive done enough looking at ls1s to know theyre great, and its worth the money, now its a matter of whether i can do it without ruining my dash, gauges, and floorboard. if all that interior can stay, im all for the fabbing. and how do you move the firewall back? does that mean just cuting sections out and rewelding a more spacious area, or actually moving the whole thing? cuz i thought the firewall was one with the rest of the engine bay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FASTKINGCAB Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 You dont need to move the entire firewall back just the area around the bell housing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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