PanzerAce Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Carbine = short rifle, or something with a stock that fires a pistol caliber Clip = Device to load a magazine (either fixed or detachable) Magazine = what actually feeds cartridges into the firing chamber of a gun A GSG-5 is NOT a machine gun, as it will only fire one round with a single pull of the trigger (it also isn't a knockoff of the mp5, it just looks the same) Aux, I would argue that a MG does not necessarily denote the inability to fire single rounds. Group Therapy mode is needed, but I'm sure you wouldn't call the HK-21 *not* a machine gun, just because it has single shot capability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfZZZap Posted March 27, 2009 Author Share Posted March 27, 2009 a better shot of the GSG-5. And yes I do know it is not an exact copy of the Mp5 but a more affordable option versus the real deal if you want the feel and look of the H&K weapon. -ZZZZAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 That is a fine looking weapon.. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=125599624 There are quite a few "kits" available for the 10/22 that simulate other guns. Above is a pretty cool one but it costs more than your gsg. They sell a bullpup stock for a little more than $100, pretty economical to get a cool looking 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfZZZap Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 very interesting kit for the 10/22, I would love to do something like that but the price tag for the rifle and kit would be insane, however I bet you could sell the hell out of a 10/22 that was converted and turn your money around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 This is what Id buy for the 10/22. I just saw a $97 price tag for one of these. Too bad I got rid of my 22 and im left handed... (shells would hit me in the face) Yeah that other kit is interesting but very expensive, Id probably just get the gsg if it came down to one or the other. As you mentioned I bet you could convince some guy that your cough**10/22**cough is actually a military spec m-54/gt7aa Navy Seal's Edition and sell it for 3 grand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxilary Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Aux, I would argue that a MG does not necessarily denote the inability to fire single rounds. Group Therapy mode is needed, but I'm sure you wouldn't call the HK-21 *not* a machine gun, just because it has single shot capability. I'm not disagreeing with you, but it's the origin of the term. Just like the true definition of a sports car is a light weight convertable coupe with decent handling that's not necessarily fast. so in reality, a 240z wouldn't qualify as a 'sports car' by its true definition. Machine guns originally didn't have single fire capabilities. They were also not very portable. the russian stuff stamped out in ww2 didn't have single fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNkEyT88 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Just a correction.. That is an M16 pictured, known by the BATF as a machine gun, you can see the sear pin on the lower receiver. It also has a short barrel, which is okay on an M16. You can also have an AR15 registered as an SBR (barrel under 16") such as the one I have. AR15 (rifle, not machine gun) with a drum Here's my 9MM AR15 SBR with suppressor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 So I assume you have your class 3 permit? What all did you have to do to get it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNkEyT88 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 No such thing as needing a permit to own a NFA item. Read up. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=17&t=199928 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfZZZap Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 Got this Glock 19 for my dad as an early fathers day present Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNkEyT88 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Nice, I've been wanting to buy a G19 for a while, but I'm going to get another suppressor for now. While we still can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfZZZap Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 Hey monkey, very nice 9mm AR btw. I'm exploring options for an AR for myself. I have a few gun buddies that have built their own from uppers/lowers and they are claiming its alot cheaper that way at the moment. do you have any recommendations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNkEyT88 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I built mine with RRA upper,9mm marked lower, mag block. YHM rear sight, and YHM 9MM XL suppressor and KNS anti-rotation pins. I'd like to think I saved money, but if I add it all up, really I don't know. I'm at over 2000 easily into this particular AR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfZZZap Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 I figured so, also good choice with the 9mm lower the way ammo is at the moment. I had a chance to get a colt AR for 1k it wasnt full size but had the collapsable stock and a couple of mags, also was standard .223. I may look into it still, though Beretta has a nice 9mm tactical carbine out called the CX4 Storm and at about an $800 price tag it would be a good buy. It shares Beretta pistol mags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Stag Arms sells AR style rifles starting at about $900, might check them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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